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A Political Thread pt. 2

Flankers' paradise said:
Also to add the gender divide. Young men are starting to become increasingly hard right and young girls increasingly hard left. The News Agents did a good episode on this today. I appreciate Jon Sopel, Emily Maitlis and Lewis Goodall might not be appealing to a centrist like CK
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Yeah young blokes are dick heads until they meet the right woman
 
dirty harry said:
Amazing isn't it, he criticises the opposition and bang, snap election.

Pretty good politicking from a non politician to be fair, Libs were getting killed until the Tarrifs and now he's on a Trump's style 'Canada first' mission.
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He's riding a popularity wave,. nothing wrong with that. They do it in many countries that don't have fixed elections.
 
So Trump is now trying to shut down the department of education by executive order. Never mind that this flies in the face of separation of powers and fundamentally undermines Congress, not that they seem to care. It is for Congress to assign funding to programs etc and for the executive to enact them. It is not for the executive to simply decide it doesn't want to fund something, as has been well established since Nixon. If Congress had funded the department of education then that's where the funding must go. Trump is now basically saying that he can just create and dismantle entire government departments on a whim with no need for approval from Congress nor regard for any of the funding or laws Congress has passed.

As usual, Republicans cried about Obama exercising executive orders but are quiet on Trump going much much further than anything Obama did with them. Same thing, their claimed principles don't actually mean anything.
 
Flankers' paradise said:
Also to add the gender divide. Young men are starting to become increasingly hard right and young girls increasingly hard left. The News Agents did a good episode on this today. I appreciate Jon Sopel, Emily Maitlis and Lewis Goodall might not be appealing to a centrist like CK
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I do love the Newsagents pretty much my place of choice for deceminating the news.
 
Should say it's a real issue for the BBC the reasons why they lost Sopel and Maitliss.

I do think Goodall might be the best political journalist of my generation. Even if he is 5 years younger.
 
Flankers' paradise said:
From what I understand Polievre was never especially popular. Quite similar to uk in that sir starmer was never very popular, everyone just fed up of tories
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It definitely was Trudeau fatigue I read somewhere if your my age (40) in Canada you lived over half you life with your PM being one guy and his son. Conservatism completely collapsed in Canada in the 90s.

On equal measure I don't think after partygate anything would of saved the Tories other than entering a state of Total War even then I'm not convinced.
 
Flankers' paradise said:
Also to add the gender divide. Young men are starting to become increasingly hard right and young girls increasingly hard left. The News Agents did a good episode on this today. I appreciate Jon Sopel, Emily Maitlis and Lewis Goodall might not be appealing to a centrist like CK
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i heard on the radio this morning on the way into work that its becoming a trend amoungst young dudes to shave off their eyelashes....because big eyelashes are feminine...and having none is manly
 
Ragey Erasmus said:
So Trump is now trying to shut down the department of education by executive order. Never mind that this flies in the face of separation of powers and fundamentally undermines Congress, not that they seem to care. It is for Congress to assign funding to programs etc and for the executive to enact them. It is not for the executive to simply decide it doesn't want to fund something, as has been well established since Nixon. If Congress had funded the department of education then that's where the funding must go. Trump is now basically saying that he can just create and dismantle entire government departments on a whim with no need for approval from Congress nor regard for any of the funding or laws Congress has passed.

As usual, Republicans cried about Obama exercising executive orders but are quiet on Trump going much much further than anything Obama did with them. Same thing, their claimed principles don't actually mean anything.
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So this isn't my specialty not by a long shot, but 3 points sprint to mind:

1. From what I know he will need congress to fully shut down the DOE, and enough votes from the Senate that Republicans don't have. I'm sure Attorney General will lodge suits too. So there's a decent check for this.
Of course American education is poor, costly and not effective, and this is just a devolution of power away from Washington no?

2. What was it called a 'boondongle'? On inception. Paid homework checkers, that republicans wanted rid of for decades.
If the DoE is bloated ineffective and the same funding for the vulnerable can continue at state level, what is the argument for it?

3. You complain that Republicans will not keep the same energy on this, than when they complained about Obama, and your right, but executive over reach and power increase was all well and good when it was Obama. I thought Republicans days were up when Obama got in, but even so, the short sightedness of this was stunning. Didn't Obama actually accuse Bush of the same thing before his run? It's hardly a new concept, don't clutch your pearls so tightly. The point is, all presidents push the envelope, they all get accused of going too far, one side sets a new precedent, so the next guy uses that new standard. Did you speak out at Obama for lambasting bush, declaring he'll roll back the powers, and then leaning further in when the ball was in his hands?
 
Not that I want this to become Trump watch, but I just read that the Alien enemies act is being pushed to allow immigration to enter homes warrantless... that's a concern. Not only the use of the act outside of war time, but non warrant forceful entries? Ye that will become messy.
 
Bada-Bing! said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Heathrow Airport closes all day over power outage

It comes in response to a "significant" outage linked to a fire at a nearby electrical substation.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Goes straight to the daily mail website for comment section hilarity...

Consensus of the first 10 comments determines it was caused by 1 of 3 things:

- Russia punishing UK
- Ukraine punishing UK
- Hamas punishing UK
- Natsee Tesla car

Hahahaha I love humanity!
 

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