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A Political Thread pt. 2

Hard disagree. His political growth from his Ohio Senate run to now is crazy impressive.

I'd be very surprised if he isn't the 48th president.
I think you're right about the president thing. I give up making predictions these days as I'm always wrong but Vance does look like the natural successor.
 
Hey, I'm like @dirty harry, you won't find me defending politicians.

I will say I like that Vance has young children and only a few years older than me. A big issue with western politicians has been an obsession with giving handouts to elderly people and ignoring young people because one group votes more consistently.
You do seem to like giving the white houses keys to the Elderly.

Aren't young voters likely to vote Dem than Republican still. Like here most young voters are liberal and left leaning. That does seem to change as they get older.
 
I think you're right about the president thing. I give up making predictions these days as I'm always wrong but Vance does look like the natural chancer
FTFY. It wasn't that long ago he was having a go at Trump on TV. He just the chance for power and took it. The only downside to that power is having to be a carer for Trump.
 
I think you're right about the president thing. I give up making predictions these days as I'm always wrong but Vance does look like the natural successor.
He ticks a lot of electoral boxes proven to lead to victory.

Pros:

Tall
Youngish
Working class background
Public undergrad at Ohio St.
Ohio/Midwest is critical to winning the White House
Marine who served in the war
Yale Law School
Has 1 foot in working class and 1 foot in elite circles
Mixed race family
Wife is very impressive on her own and she's very pretty

Cons

Lacks elite charisma
Could go from wonderboy to Trump trash quick - huge tail risk
Doesn't have Teflon like Trump
Beard - We haven't had a president with facial hair since 1909. But facial hair acceptance has skyrocketed in the last decade.
 
He ticks a lot of electoral boxes proven to lead to victory.

Pros:

Tall
Youngish
Working class background
Public undergrad at Ohio St.
Ohio/Midwest is critical to winning the White House
Marine who served in the war
Yale Law School
Has 1 foot in working class and 1 foot in elite circles
Mixed race family
Wife is very impressive on her own and she's very pretty

Cons

Lacks elite charisma
Could go from wonderboy to Trump trash quick - huge tail risk
Doesn't have Teflon like Trump
Beard - We haven't had a president with facial hair since 1909. But facial hair acceptance has skyrocketed in the last decade.
Hoping he shaves now, I need those memes.
 
He ticks a lot of electoral boxes proven to lead to victory.

Pros:

Tall
Youngish
Working class background
Public undergrad at Ohio St.
Ohio/Midwest is critical to winning the White House
Marine who served in the war
Yale Law School
Has 1 foot in working class and 1 foot in elite circles
Mixed race family
Wife is very impressive on her own and she's very pretty

Cons

Lacks elite charisma
Could go from wonderboy to Trump trash quick - huge tail risk
Doesn't have Teflon like Trump
Beard - We haven't had a president with facial hair since 1909. But facial hair acceptance has skyrocketed in the last decade.
I once saw something about Russian leaders and how they alternate between bald leaders and leaders with hair. After Putin the next guy is going to have a massive Afro.
 
Wait, who's the other MAGA here outside of Chicago kid?

I hope this isn't referencing me, I've been berated and called 'peice of ****' 'strumpet' 'Richard head' to name a few, please refer where I've called names?

The idea that I'm the deranged one, as people sit there raging on a rugby forum, because someone has the audacity to not hate Trump to the same level as them hahaha

I'm not going to go back and quote myself, but I said originally I didn't want to engage in a Trump debate, because people don't act rationally, they rage that he's literally the devil, and there is no other standpoint, no productive conversation can be had here, emotions run too high.

I guess we will wait until the end of his term, see if the sky falls in on itself, the constitution gets ripped up, and great genocides occur on US soil, let's revisit the conversation then.
Not you, sourpatchkid
 
Aren't young voters likely to vote Dem than Republican still. Like here most young voters are liberal and left leaning. That does seem to change as they get older.
Pretty much a myth traditionally the until the last decade the Overton Windows has drifted leftwards especially socially.

You'll find your grandparents pretty much hold the same views they did when they were your age. Just that is not "consvervative" as opposed to "progressive" to quote Grampa Simpson

"I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I'm with isn't it, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you, too."

Plus most studies show its not happening with Millennials (26 to 45 year olds) who have gone leftwards if anything but generation after them Zoomers are starting way more right.
 
He ticks a lot of electoral boxes proven to lead to victory.

Pros:

Tall
Youngish
Working class background
Public undergrad at Ohio St.
Ohio/Midwest is critical to winning the White House
Marine who served in the war
Yale Law School
Has 1 foot in working class and 1 foot in elite circles
Mixed race family
Wife is very impressive on her own and she's very pretty

Cons

Lacks elite charisma
Could go from wonderboy to Trump trash quick - huge tail risk
Doesn't have Teflon like Trump
Beard - We haven't had a president with facial hair since 1909. But facial hair acceptance has skyrocketed in the last decade.
US Marine wearing eye liner isn't a shocker.

Here the Marines are a branch of the Navy. So in theory he's a sailor so "Hello Sailor".
 
I was once metres away from a bunch of Americans in Edinburgh on a tour, looking up towards the castle. One of them said "why would you build a castle up there when the rest of the city is down here"
Out of interest was that fella dressed up as William Wallace for the tourists still there?
 

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