A Political Thread pt. 2

[pagliaccio_euforico]

Trump nominates advocate for Jan. 6 rioters to stay as DC's top prosecutor

Conservative activist Ed Martin, who defended Jan. 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol rioters, was nominated by the president on Monday to be the top federal prosecutor in Washington on a permanent basis.

www.nbcwashington.com

this is both insane and in the bottom half of insane **** that has happened this week

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

All right wingers don't know what USAID is, because AID is in the ***le they think it's sending aid out, when in fact it stands for US Agency international Development, which in essence is the government bribery agency tasked with exerting influence with money much like the Soviets did and the Chinese do in Africa.

tbf, they did call it USAID to fool people into thinking it wasn't Post WWII colonization and it looks lit it worked.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Musk now calling for CBS staff to be thrown in prison for allegedly editing an interview with Harris to make her look favourable... I'm am so sick of the ******* right wing hypocrites. Nothing they claim to hold as their values they actually do.

1. The interview wasn't edited in a way to distort what was said, it was just trimmed to fit into the time slot. The full interview has been released
2. Fox have edited interviews multiple times and have intentionally done so to distort what was being said
3. Neither are illegal
4. Musk claimed to buy Twitter to "protect free speech", when private platforms can censor all they want. He is now advocating the government imprison people for exercising free speech, where the Constitution DOES apply.

**** the right wing. They are driving the world towards the edge and seem to take glee in the trail of destruction they leave behind them. I include silent and compliant moderates in this now, those on the right who sit back and watch these extremists tear all aspects of our society apart and have no issue with it, you are every bit as bad as them now.

 

[AlRums]

Musk now calling for CBS staff to be thrown in prison for allegedly editing an interview with Harris to make her look favourable... I'm am so sick of the ******* right wing hypocrites. Nothing they claim to hold as their values they actually do.

1. The interview wasn't edited in a way to distort what was said, it was just trimmed to fit into the time slot. The full interview has been released
2. Fox have edited interviews multiple times and have intentionally done so to distort what was being said
3. Neither are illegal
4. Musk claimed to buy Twitter to "protect free speech", when private platforms can censor all they want. He is now advocating the government imprison people for exercising free speech, where the Constitution DOES apply.

**** the right wing. They are driving the world towards the edge and seem to take glee in the trail of destruction they leave behind them. I include silent and compliant moderates in this now, those on the right who sit back and watch these extremists tear all aspects of our society apart and have no issue with it, you are every bit as bad as them now.

That would be in direct violation of the first amendment.

Mush also recently booted someone prominent, can't remember who offhand, from twatter.

Edit: it was Kanye West who musk banned.

 

[Kiwiwomble]

A government department not audited would be quite the shock.

also, why does it need to be stopped to be audited?

 

[Which Tyler]

Having said all of that about America, Europe should stop its pathetic grand-standing about being entitled to be an equal partner in this process. Europe has no right to complain about where we've got to with Ukraine and US involvement in NATO, our countries have had ample warnings from several US presidents over many years. There was always going to become a point where America said "enough is enough".

If you keep this to European military spending, and "fair share" in NATO, over-reliance on USA for security - then yes - though it's worth noting that that's been US policy (as well as domestic policy for European nations) for Reagan, Bush Snr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama and Biden. America wanted a Europe that was beholden to the US. Only Trump made an issue of this, and even he wants Europe to be beholden to America - he just hasn't joined the dots.
However, if you look at this as a negotiation for peace in Ukraine, then Europe as a block is a more-than-equal partner here. Europe as a block (and IIRC the EU as a block) has done more to support Ukraine than the USA has - okay, each nation individually has done less, because all are significantly smaller with smaller economies and massively smaller militaries (see above). Furthermore, this war is taking place on European soil - it's our front door that's being shat on, with specific and explicit threats that EU members are "next". If that doesn't "entitle" the EU to a seat at the table, then I really don't know what does.

 

[General Melchett]

Nailed it.

 

[The Seeker]

It's what Trump calls "The Art of the deal."

Trump has said that he doesn't read books and he didn't write The Art Of The Deal either. But the guy who ghostwrote it for him said he regrets doing it.

Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All

In “The Art of the Deal,” Tony Schwartz helped create the myth that Trump is a charming business genius. Now he calls him unfit to lead.

www.newyorker.com

 

[McTallshort]

Yeah everyone who seems to push Trump on everybody all now say he's unfit blah blah...didn't stop them taking his money did it.

 

[Saintjay]

If you keep this to European military spending, and "fair share" in NATO, over-reliance on USA for security - then yes - though it's worth noting that that's been US policy (as well as domestic policy for European nations) for Reagan, Bush Snr, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama and Biden. America wanted a Europe that was beholden to the US. Only Trump made an issue of this, and even he wants Europe to be beholden to America - he just hasn't joined the dots.
However, if you look at this as a negotiation for peace in Ukraine, then Europe as a block is a more-than-equal partner here. Europe as a block (and IIRC the EU as a block) has done more to support Ukraine than the USA has - okay, each nation individually has done less, because all are significantly smaller with smaller economies and massively smaller militaries (see above). Furthermore, this war is taking place on European soil - it's our front door that's being shat on, with specific and explicit threats that EU members are "next". If that doesn't "entitle" the EU to a seat at the table, then I really don't know what does.

Amazing how quickly they forgot the military support the British have given them since 9\11. Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq etc.

Imaging the out cry if we shrugged and went "They are far away, not are problem". Or now sent them a bill for previous support.

 

[ncurd]

Amazing how quickly they forgot the military support the British have given them since 9\11. Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq etc.

Imaging the out cry if we shrugged and went "They are far away, not are problem". Or now sent them a bill for previous support.

TBF that's a big miss from the USA aren't we still paying them back our WW2 bill?

Europe remember Ukraine will have to pay luckilly.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

TBF that's a big miss from the USA aren't we still paying them back our WW2 bill?

Europe remember Ukraine will have to pay luckilly.

We actually paid off the ww2 bill quite recently.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Trump has said that he doesn't read books and he didn't write The Art Of The Deal either. But the guy who ghostwrote it for him said he regrets doing it.

Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All

In “The Art of the Deal,” Tony Schwartz helped create the myth that Trump is a charming business genius. Now he calls him unfit to lead.

www.newyorker.com

FYI I was being sarcastic with my post. I know he didn't write it. Next time I will put a

 

[The Seeker]

Yeah everyone who seems to push Trump on everybody all now say he's unfit blah blah...didn't stop them taking his money did it.

In the instance that I cited it's a case of hindsight is 20/20.

 

[ncurd]

We actually paid off the ww2 bill quite recently.

I thought that was WW1?

 

[Becca]

I thought that was WW1?

No it was WW2.
And in my opinion we never should have paid it !

 

[ncurd]

No it was WW2.
And in my opinion we never should have paid it !

We got a lot of tanks on that bill before the US was willing to join the war a country that was not at threat and very reluctant to join.

And the decision was made over 40 years before I was born.

 

[General Melchett]

What a moron. He's treating it all like a company acquisition and is going through the books trying to trim the fat as part of a massive cost cutting exercise.

Forgetting that key strategic alliances with other countries have been forged over decades. Those same countries have provided support and enabled them to become a military superpower with strategic bases all over the world not to mention becoming a global economic powerhouse.

The same allies who stood by America when they have committed some of the worst atrocities in the history of mankind such as Hiroshima, carpet bombing in Laos, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine etc etc etc.

I for one can't wait when enough Americans wake up, smell the coffee and realise they've been played by him and his new best bud.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

https://www.reuters.com/data/tracking-trumps-economy-2025-01-27/

Good tracker to show how inept the DNC was at painting a picture to the American public.

All of trump's policies are going to make the economy worse (for day to day purchases).

 

[AlRums]

US tells Zelensky to 'tone down [the criticism] and sign that deal'

Mike Waltz said that he still believed US differences with Ukraine could be reconciled over the war after meeting with Russians in Saudi Arabia.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The US now really selling Ukraine down the river.