A Political Thread pt. 2

[BrokenWing]

In garrison towns. So to help civilian police with the military people in the town.

 

[McTallshort]

"Service police are not constables under UK law and do not have any constabulary powers over the general public, however they have the full range of policing power that constables possess when dealing with service personnel or civilians subject to service discipline."

I doubt they've had remotely as much training in the law as actual police.

Why do you doubt that?

 

[McTallshort]

It depends on the country,I think. In some countries, military police has such powers (or,at least, partially). In other countries,their powers are limited.
As for the UK, I found only something like that:

And + Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_police_of_the_United_Kingdom

Royal Military Police - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

So,as far as I understand, you were right regarding the UK military police, they can only "assist to civilian police forces" blabla


Why "royal" military police though...

Same reason you have Royal Engineers, Royal Artillery, Royal Logistics corps, Royal Marines etc

 

[Yulia]

Same reason you have Royal Engineers, Royal Artillery, Royal Logistics corps, Royal Marines etc

Archaic and pathetic,in my opinion... a bit like you try to make emptiness sound. "Bombastic engineers, bombastic artillery" etc

 

[McTallshort]

Archaic and pathetic,in my opinion... a bit like you try to make emptiness sound. "Bombastic engineers, bombastic artillery" etc

Well that's your opinion

 

[BrokenWing]

Why do you doubt that?

Experience of having dealt with them. Well, RAF police anyway.

 

[McTallshort]

Experience of having dealt with them. Well, RAF police anyway.

Fair enough

 

[ncurd]

I wonder if people worry about the archaic name of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Standard police (in Scotland at least) don't even have to share details of any contact or arrest they make of a squaddie who is off duty, although they can tell the RMP the person was arrested and released (with no further details). RMP can probably appeal for information from the courts (if it gets that far). I find that strange given we are talking about people presumably with firearms access.

The situation of the army being used to cover strikers is a joke. Up here its similar with the police, for years they are left dealing with complex mental health cases and families in disarray because the NHS and Council realise they can offload a lot of their work into the police. None of this is the way ahead.

I'm particularly annoyed that I see almost no mention of widespread tax avoidance (legal and illegal) being the main cause of the coffers being empty. £35 billion lost per annum in the UK alone.

Tax lost in UK amounts to £35bn – almost half, say campaigners, due to fraud

Annual snapshot from HMRC comes as public finances are under biggest strain since the second world war

www.theguardian.com

Also whilst arguments can be made that 10%+ payrises are inflationary, its funny the Tories never thought of that when lifting restrictions on bankers bonuses. Almost like they speak with forked tongue and you should never believe anything coming out of their mouth.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Archaic and pathetic,in my opinion... a bit like you try to make emptiness sound. "Bombastic engineers, bombastic artillery" etc

Remember, this is a country that calls itself "Great" Britain. I'm surprised Bojo didn't rebrand it to 'Bombastic Brexit Britain' because Great was too understated. And yes, 'Great' can be claimed to be a geographic term but its completely redundant and I don't think any other country felt the need to pre-fix their name in this way.

I wonder if people worry about the archaic name of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

I think native people on the receiving end of the British/Christian "genocide" (as described by the pope) might have a view on it. I imagine the police will have had a role in abducting kids from their native families, albeit not in the actual racist abuse and murders that took place in the 'schools'. Apologies, but that's a massive sore point for me, I won't labour the point.

More interestingly I also imagine Quebecois are not over the moon about a police force named after a royalty of which they have never had any affiliation. Similarly English speaking anti-royalists. But that's why it'll typically be called Mounties rather than RCMP. Seems Mounties only enforce federal laws in Quebec, so kind of like an FBI role or NCA (or whatever the UK government is calling them this week). So the day to day Bobbie on the Beat might not even be called a mounty there? I don't know. I'm surprised the RCMP haven't been changed to CMP to be honest.

 

[Yulia]

Remember, this is a country that calls itself "Great" Britain.

Yes,also thought to mention it in the beginning,but didn't want to find myself crucified on the British flag next day (with a shout "well that's your opinion")

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Just wait until you hear about all the other countries in the world with a royal family as the figurehead of the military and have royal in the names of some branches of their military, gonna have a ******* heart attack

Remember, this is a country that calls itself "Great" Britain.

Literally just means big, cause there was also "lesser" Britain (Britannia major and Britannia minor), but by all means continue to "go off"

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I just think you're* ***** because of the majority of your history, and ignorance and lack of remorse towards it. Based.

*Obviously I don't include individuals here, just the majority of those who've sat in government in any capacity.

 

[The Seeker]

No that's not true. Military police can be granted the power of arrest under certain civil circumstances. I am guessing although I may be wrong that if the military are given control of the border crossing that there will be some in their number that can make an arrest

The same thing applies here in the United States if martial law is declared.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Just wait until you hear about all the other countries in the world with a royal family as the figurehead of the military and have royal in the names of some branches of their military, gonna have a ******* heart attack


Literally just means big, cause there was also "lesser" Britain (Britannia major and Britannia minor), but by all means continue to "go off"

I covered that in the bit you edited out to make my Post Major a Post Minor . I'm fairly confident by the time 1707 came around they weren't beholden to the names the Roman's called things 1500 years ago and that people knew Brittany wasn't part of the union of the crowns. If that really was a reason then there are loads of ways to distinguish it from Brittany, the most obvious being 'North' Britain.

I'd argue the mindset behind calling it Great Britain is similar to called TV programmes "The Great British such and such". Overcompensating. Literally giving a modest sized island a name to make it sound more relevant than it was.

Don't get me wrong, with French 'exceptionalism' they are probably kicking themselves they never thought of it first.

It's good to see the UK youth moving away from being aimless to being indoctrinated into defence of the Crown. Nice to have a purpose in life.

King's first Christmas message tops 10m viewers

The 10.7 million who saw King Charles's message compares with 8.96 million who watched the Queen a year ago.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[TRF_Olyy]

 

[Gavin]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere a theory that Great Britain is a translation from the French name when they were trying to differentiate between Britain and Brittany.

If in doubt, blame it on the French

 

[Becca]

Maybe it would please some if we just went back to calling ourselves Albion ?

 

[Which Tyler]

Nvm

 

[The Seeker]