A Political Thread pt. 2

[TRF_Olyy]

Think most blue blooded Tories would be champing at the bit to be performatively upset about Queenie

I think my company will close: owner loves the monarchy
Expect the bank holiday will be taken from our holiday allowance

 

[General Melchett]

I'm severely hacked off that this weekend's football and rugby were called off but cricket at the Oval is allowed to go ahead.

 

[ncurd]

Think most blue blooded Tories would be champing at the bit to be performatively upset about Queenie I think my company will close: owner loves the monarchy Expect the bank holiday will be taken from our holiday allowance

We're taking measures to move our holiday into next year. Genuine issues coming from the finance wonks.

As noted we're not really controlled by Tories but Democrats and Republicans and they almost didn't let us have the jubilee off. I think if you work for actual UK owned company where its being run by a British guy your good. But that's not how many companies are run.

 

[ncurd]

I'm severely hacked off that this weekend's football and rugby were called off but cricket at the Oval is allowed to go ahead.

It was both those bodies who decided it the royal declaration of morning specifically said event should go ahead if they wanted it. Last Night of the Proms was a really mad one could easially of been redone.

Football/Rugby just bottled it some are claiming its a policing problem but that's ********.

 

[Which Tyler]

I'm severely hacked off that this weekend's football and rugby were called off but cricket at the Oval is allowed to go ahead.

Rugby's been called off?
What are all these rugby matches today about then?

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Izyum abandoned before Ukraine could close the net. Disappointing but can't be greedy. The suggestion is this removal of pressure from the north should help Ukraine hold the remainder of Donetsk so the chances of Russia reaching full occupation of Donbass this year has taken a real hit and with it the ability of Putint to try and claim 'mission accomplished' and save face while abandoning wider objectives.

This footage pretty much sums up the last few days for Russia.

 

[McTallshort]

Izyum abandoned before Ukraine could close the net. Disappointing but can't be greedy. The suggestion is this removal of pressure from the north should help Ukraine hold the remainder of Donetsk so the chances of Russia reaching full occupation of Donbass this year has taken a real hit and with it the ability of Putint to try and claim 'mission accomplished' and save face while abandoning wider objectives.

This footage pretty much sums up the last few days for Russia.

Bet they still abandoned loads of their heavy equipment. Russia once again being the most dedicated supporter of the Ukrainian army

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Reports Ukraine is pushing on at a crazy speed in the northeast and have reached Sieverodontesk. So pushing in to Luhansk region and potentially coming round the back of the Russian front in Donbass. I apologise if I'm being hoodwinked and this is misinformation. This would be even more nuts than what's just happened.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Might it be worth making a new thread for the ongoing updates in Ukraine?

 

[Which Tyler]

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Reuters reporting multiple Ukrainian officials making it clear Ukraine is miles behind what was Russian frontlines in Luhansk region yesterday and have at a minimum, reached Lysychansk. So this seems verifiable.

Russia gives up key northeast towns as Ukrainian forces advance

The swift fall of Izium in Kharkiv province was Moscow's worst defeat since its troops were forced back from Kyiv in March, and could prove a turning point in the war, with thousands of Russian soldiers abandoning ammunition stockpiles and equipment as they fled.

www.reuters.com

If anyone finds a news outlet accessible online that is actually reporting on this please let me know. The security of an entire continent for a generation may be being secured and I'm having to scrabble about randomly on the internet to find out what might be happening. I bet they wouldn't even cover it if Putin tossed in a nuke. Shocking!

 

[McTallshort]

Reuters reporting multiple Ukrainian officials making it clear Ukraine is miles behind what was Russian frontlines in Luhansk region yesterday and have at a minimum, reached Lysychansk. So this seems verifiable.

Russia gives up key northeast towns as Ukrainian forces advance

The swift fall of Izium in Kharkiv province was Moscow's worst defeat since its troops were forced back from Kyiv in March, and could prove a turning point in the war, with thousands of Russian soldiers abandoning ammunition stockpiles and equipment as they fled.

www.reuters.com

If anyone finds a news outlet accessible online that is actually reporting on this please let me know. The security of an entire continent for a generation may be being secured and I'm having to scrabble about randomly on the internet to find out what might be happening. I bet they wouldn't even cover it if Putin tossed in a nuke. Shocking!

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Live updates

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Breaking News, World News and Video from Al Jazeera

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Live updates

Thanks. I read Al Jazeera but they seem to be running a few hours behind reality. If a Ukranian official posts something on a verified Twitter account they should be reporting it.

 

[Amiga500]

I'm sure after they've spent 100 billion to badly cap energy bills for two years they'll find some way of justifying losing money for one day all in the name of British identity and culture.

Fixed that for you.

 

[McTallshort]

Thanks. I read Al Jazeera but they seem to be running a few hours behind reality. If a Ukranian official posts something on a verified Twitter account they should be reporting it.

Guessing their crews are in Kyiv so they get the news as the Ukrainians are posting it on twitter

 

[Which Tyler]

The Donetsk People's Republic has removed its government to a car getting the **** out of dodge


The difference between that video and Zelensky's 'we are here' speech at the start of the war is rather stark.

Mind you, the difference in the maps since,... Tuesday (and that's before today's offensive)

 

[McTallshort]

Just missing the Benny Hill theme

 

[Which Tyler]

Just missing the Benny Hill theme

I already included the Pink Floyd soundtrack - what more do you want of me.

Incidentally, the above map for "today" was before today's offensive (and a reasonably conservative map maker).
I actually like his maps better than the previous one I put up, they're here if you're interested - I like maps (just in case you couldn't tell from my postings), because they're something I understand, I can read the terrain, and major and minor roads, railways etc etc.
I dno't know war, and only a rudimentary understanding of tactics (most of that based on medieval and earlier); but maps, I get.

ETA:

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

On another note, Legal Eagle on the whole Trump special master thing:

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

This guy is proving a godsend. Pleasant viewing but with a note of caution.