A Political Thread pt. 2

[Vieux Talonneur]

The resignationometer currently showing something like:

2 cabinet members

6 ministers

6 PPSs

3 others

And more also publicly withdrawing support. I know we keep saying it but untenable, surely.

This is reverse Corbyn though where Labour is probably deep down keen for Johnson to stay and cause far more damage to the Tories than they, as the common enemy, could ever hope.

 

[ncurd]

The resignationometer currently showing something like:

2 cabinet members

6 ministers

6 PPSs

3 others

And more also publicly withdrawing support. I know we keep saying it but untenable, surely.

This is reverse Corbyn though where Labour is probably deep down keen for Johnson to stay and cause for more damage to the Tories than they, as the common enemy, could ever hope.

Your 1 short its 18 on the last count but I just had and a coffee which is a age currently.

 

[Groundhog]

Shocked that a man named Pincher turned out to be a handsy pervert. Hope this is the end of Johnson and his scummy government.

 

[Groundhog]

 

[ncurd]

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James Cleverley proves it wrong contantly.

 

[Which Tyler]

Your 1 short its 18 on the last count but I just had and a coffee which is a age currently.

21 as of 2.00

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Getting the palpatine "I am the party" vibes from Johnson.

 

[General Melchett]

Getting the palpatine "I am the party" vibes from Johnson.

He views it as his majority and his mandate and appears to overlook all the **** that's gone down in the last three years.

 

[Which Tyler]

Getting the palpatine "I am the party" vibes from Johnson.

Elected dictatorship, innit

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

someone has to step in and tell him this is a bad look. Leading a government in which no one supports you and the only reason you are still PM is cause of the committee rules is embarrassing. He's gotta save face.

 

[ncurd]

someone has to step in and tell him this is a bad look. Leading a government in which no one supports you and the only reason you are still PM is cause of the committee rules is embarrassing. He's gotta save face.

Supposedly Chief Whip doing exactly that.

 

[Which Tyler]

21 as of 2.00

27, as of 3.00

 

[ncurd]

27, as of 3.00

Just did my commute back home was talking to my father kept saying I want online so had no idea how many had gone in that time.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

liaison committee meeting is boring. just talking about Ukraine.

I saw that apparently only 15 of the resignations are people that actually need to be replaced. That is still a really tall task and I wonder if he has enough MPs willing to take those spots?

 

[Which Tyler]

A few weeks ago, BJ "won" his vote of no confidence 211-148.
the last 21 hours have seen 27 resignations, and another half-dozen or so Tory MPs publicly withdrawing support.

IF we assume that all 27 and all 6 voted for him a few weeks ago and all would vote against him now; and assuming that no-one who wanted him gone before the by-elections, wants him to stay now; that puts him at 178-181 down.
I don't think any of those assumptions above are unreasonable.
I would assume that he's also lost support from other MPs who haven't gone public yet.

If there was another conservative vote of no confidence in his leadership, the only way he gets over 100 votes, is if they're objecting to the changing of the rules to suit themselves (fair enough, and a page taken from BJ's own playbook where he re-wrote the the ministerial code to excuse himself and his mates).




And as I write that, Gove tells him he has to go, but doesn't seem to have resigned

 

[BiggusLaddus]

Gove

It should definitely be written into law that any vote for Scottish independence has to be conditional on him leaving as well.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

 

[ncurd]

snip

Wishful thinking, fairly certain constitutional scholars will say if he's removed as leader of the Conservative party by its own rules (which they set), the Queen will appoint a new PM who is the current leader (Raab).

Its Trump trying to stop the Senate Count territory.

 

[ncurd]

The BBC have added a resignation count ticker on the News channel

Now at 31, previous record in 24 hours was 6.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

Wishful thinking, fairly certain constitutional scholars will say if he's removed as leader of the Conservative party by its own rules (which they set), the Queen will appoint a new PM who is the current leader (Raab).

Its Trump trying to stop the Senate Count territory.

on face value yes. What I think is interesting over the past few years is that we have increasingly learned that the rules of government (here in the USA and I imagine in the UK as well) depends on people being good faith participants in the process. If people are not respectful of the established processes then everything just becomes a game of chicken between those who have the most power.