[2021 Six Nations] France vs Wales (20/03/2021)

[Wichita]

Unlucky Wales. Hopefully Scotland can do you a favour next week and keep it within 20 points so you can claim the ***le.

I would have been happy if England had played like wales today, but we're polar opposites at the moment.

The only certainty we have is that all hell will break loose around here on Friday night if the French team wins by 4 tries and just a 20 point difference and Wales become 6N champions.

 

[ThebigARena]

Sorry but that is simply not true. Wales has AWJ, Biggar, L.Williams and Adams to name a few who have stinking attitudes and are anything but humble. In the [past they've had the likes of Webb, Mike Phillips and Scott Williams, all of whom also had poor attitudes. They have a history of getting away with tons of cynical play and I think that is what really riles people up about the Welsh team. They are not humble, they are not honest, they are frequent users of gamesmanship who have mastered the art of looking innocent.

With 1 exception, the Welsh posters here are very good and have no issue with them but the Welsh posters outside this forum? Well let's say they are extremely happy to dish it out. It's that combination of having an extremely cynical team with a fair few egos that keep getting away with it and some exceptionally gobby fans that have led to Wales being a pretty unpopular side.

The taste of bitterness is strong with this one.
However next to the likes of Mike brown they are all glowing in angelic form

 

[ncurd]

The only certainty we have is that all hell will break loose around here on Friday night if the French team wins by 4 tries and just a 20 point difference and Wales become 6N champions.

England therefore win the championship for Wales

 

[ThebigARena]

Yes and to varying degrees and also punished to varying degrees.

Wales are disliked because they are as cynical if not more cynical than many other teams and players like AWJ go out of their way to be wind up merchants. They also get away with it a lot more than other teams. Nobody really cares about someone who is a knob and is punished for it, it's the knob who never gets punished that people don't like. That's why AWJ in particular is so disliked. He has been caught lying on the wrong side of the ruck and infringing frequently but never gets carded no matter how cynical his actions or how many times it is repeated. I recall there was a game where Wales gave away 6(?) penalties defending their try line in a row without a warning.

So again why Wales are disliked, because they are one of the most cynical sides yet also one of the least punished for it with some of their players going out of their way to be knobs on field with no repercussions. When has Biggar ever caused the team to be marched back 10 for his repeated backchat? He has been full on right up in the face of a ref shouting at him and never been punished for it. That is what many people don't like.

You do relalise It's only the EngIrish that dislike us .
Go and ask the rest of the rugby nations and see what answer you get.
I'm pretty sure we will have more like than England pal.

 

[Jimbo]

The taste of bitterness is strong with this one.
However next to the likes of Mike brown they are all glowing in angelic form

I'm afraid Liam Williams is anything but Angelic, his clearing out is completely illegal and dangerous as **** but he gets away with it all the time, atleast With Brown you know he's just an angry fella, he doesn't try and act the innocent, though I am unsure of what a disliked English player who hasn't featured for England in recent years has to do with anything.

 

[Jimbo]

You do relalise It's only the EngIrish that dislike us .
Go and ask the rest of the rugby nations and see what answer you get.
I'm pretty sure we will have more like than England pal.

Pretty sure the English and Irish have been accused of ganging up on the Welsh here possibly by yourself, England are probably the most disliked rugby nation on the planet that's hard a revolution is it....

 

[ThebigARena]

Williams= God
Biggar =God
AWJ = God of Gods

 

[Wichita]

England therefore win the championship for Wales

As usual, we had the whole of the British Isles against us while pretending to compete with each other, but a single man may have switched things in Wales favor this year. As he is now an honorary welsh citizen, could we have him ref the match against Scotland on Friday to even things out ?

 

[ThebigARena]

Pretty sure the English and Irish have been accused of ganging up on the Welsh here possibly by yourself, England are probably the most disliked rugby nation on the planet that's hard a revolution is it....

Yes and ask yourself why that is.
Your buddy said Wales are hated because of certain players etc . I simply said it's only by the EngIrish not by world rugby so I'm not sure what your point is.

 

[TommiG88]

Yes and ask yourself why that is.
Your buddy said Wales are hated because of certain players etc . I simply said it's only by the EngIrish not by world rugby so I'm not sure what your point is.

Every one always supports the little guy, fella

 

[ThebigARena]

Every one always supports the little guy, fella

The little guy that's on equal wins with England you mean?

 

[Jimbo]

Yes and ask yourself why that is.
Your buddy said Wales are hated because of certain players etc . I simply said it's only by the EngIrish not by world rugby so I'm not sure what your point is.

My point was simply that England and Ireland earlier on (possibly by yourself) were accused of ganging up on the Welsh which would imply the Irish are not overly fond of the Welsh setup no? I don't have to ask why it is England are hated it's largely due to historical events, as well as generally being superior in just about every way with exception to turning reffs into our sock puppets Wales have superiority there.

 

[TommiG88]

The little guy that's on equal wins with England you mean?

 

[BrokenWing]

Disliking Wales for getting away with infringing is odd.

Wales aren't the reason they get away with it if indeed they do, that's up to the officials.

However, Liam Williams is easily on par with Brown in the bellend stakes.

 

[bushytop]

You do relalise It's only the EngIrish that dislike us .
Go and ask the rest of the rugby nations and see what answer you get.
I'm pretty sure we will have more like than England pal.

Pretty sure I mentioned it last night, maybe I just drunk-dreamed it though... but it really tickles me that little Wales... the first land that 'England' ever conquered (of MANY... and that's the main reason most of the world still support whomever the English are playing to this day) has actually gone onto become England's 'England' (essentially, the team the English will always support the opponents of). It's like the result of some long-running geopolitical farce.

 

[Jimbo]

Disliking Wales for getting away with infringing is odd.

Wales aren't the reason they get away with it if indeed they do, that's up to the officials.

However, Liam Williams is easily on par with Brown in the bellend stakes.

I mean you say this but it's probably more of a subconscious dislike when you see your and other teams getting in trouble for things some teams just seem to get away with, the ABs have been accused of it for many years it's not unique to Wales.

 

[ThebigARena]

What a game that was last night. Totally gutted not to be celebrating 5th grandslam in 16 years BUT I can't be too downbeat about the performance.

This is a step in the right direction, it looks like the Pivac gameplan is finally starting to show, this is exactly what I wanted to see and why I was excited for the new regime, player coming on to the ball with pace, I can't remember a time seeing Dan biggar coming on to the ball with pace and cutting an angle like that. Champagne Rugby.

This is a million miles away from the boring Warrenball tactics. So while I'm gutted I'm also positive because if we continue in this direction it should make for some good viewing.

It's nice to see the English supporting the French as well and that's a step in the right direction too , now if they could just emulate the way France play they could be nearing the top half of the table.

 

[ThebigARena]

My point was simply that England and Ireland earlier on (possibly by yourself) were accused of ganging up on the Welsh which would imply the Irish are not overly fond of the Welsh setup no? I don't have to ask why it is England are hated it's largely due to historical events, as well as generally being superior in just about every way with exception to turning reffs into our sock puppets Wales have superiority there.

Superior in your head yes. Not in the wider view of the world tho bud .

That's no way to address an English referee.

Haters gonna hate I guess

 

[Jimbo]

What a game that was last night. Totally gutted not to be celebrating 5th grandslam in 16 years BUT I can't be too downbeat about the performance.

This is a step in the right direction, it looks like the Pivac gameplan is finally starting to show, this is exactly what I wanted to see and why I was excited for the new regime, player coming on to the ball with pace, I can't remember a time seeing Dan biggar coming on to the ball with pace and cutting an angle like that. Champagne Rugby.

This is a million miles away from the boring Warrenball tactics. So while I'm gutted I'm also positive because if we continue in this direction it should make for some good viewing.

It's nice to see the English supporting the French as well and that's a step in the right direction too , now if they could just emulate the way France play they could be nearing the top half of the table.

Fair play, I simply wanted the most deserving team throughout the duration of the tournament to win, that happened it the end in my opinion, take nothing away from either side that was easily the most entertaining game of the tournament probably for some time too, considering where the Welsh were on paper at the start of the tournament they have every reason to be positive.

 

[LIONSxv]

Very unlucky Wales, best performance in 2 years. They put pressure on the French pack, who wilted under pressure. Fair play to France for the last 10 mins though. A great game of rugby.
A few observations, peoples criticism of the Welsh and refs are odd. Yes they do get away with lots of infringements. However don't blame the Welsh. NZ were masters at it and Irish circa 16-19, played the ref superbly. They obviously paint a good picture and have a good relationships with the ref. England take note

The French, pretty much as I thought you put their pack under pressure and they wilt. I don't like their backrow balence either, Olivon needs a smaller quicker fetcher to compliment him. Wales dominated the contact area as they were simply quicker.
9,10 and centres are world class. However what happens if say du pont and fickou get injured. The drop off after those two seems high