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[2016 RBS Six Nations] Round 4: England vs. Wales (12/03/2016)

I'm sure there are technical analysists out there who'll write up loads. Bit I reckon its simple. If Wales had turned up halfway through the first half instead of halfway through the second half they would have had a good chance of winning. Not even the experts and TV pundits could quite work out wtf was happening with Wales fist half. Ha ha 2 minutes longer and it could have all been so different.....

I always knew the Welsh boys had an inflated opinion of their team but these type comments are amazing. No technical analysis needed... a better side forced your mistakes.

I ****ing hope Gatland doesn't get the Lions job next year. Watching 14 Welsh lads and Jonathan Sexton was trying enough last time. This time i'd have to top myself.:D
 
We would yes.

You said British, nothing about the United Kingdom. Do you even geography bro?

Ermmmm Bro I said British lions not Great British lions.

British Lions is the British islands idiot.

Great Britain - Scotland, Wales and England
United Kingdom - England, Scotland, Wales, England and N. Ireland
British islands - England, Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland, Isle of man, Guernsey and Jersey
British isles - England, Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland, Isle of man, Guernsey, Jersey and Ireland
 
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They dominated us because we did'nt turn up for the 1st 55/60 minutes even Italy would have looked good had they been the opposition. Perhaps a penalty should bev reduced to 2 points.

Aye, nothing to do with us absolutely dominating you.
We should feel lucky to have been allowed onto the same page as the might WALES!


Heard after the game that Gatland genuinely believes Wales will beat New Zealand over the summer.
lol
 
Ermmmm Bro I said British lions not Great British lions.

British Lions is the British islands idiot.

Great Britain - Scotland, Wales and England
United Kingdom - England, Scotland, Wales, England and N. Ireland
British islands - England, Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland, Isle of man, Guernsey and Jersey
British isles - England, Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland, Isle of man, Guernsey, Jersey and Ireland
Christ, independence from all that ****e is glorious.
 
Heard after the game that Gatland genuinely believes Wales will beat New Zealand over the summer.
lol
They only haven't beaten them in 63 years...

Look even I wouldn't expect England to beat NZ in NZ at best I'd like works win one game in that tour. Anything more than that would be massively punching above the weight of the team.
 
Saying that Ireland "left" is like a girl saying she and her boyfriend broke up, when in reality she was Duuuuuuu-HUMPED.

Or the girl wanted to be dumped as she had enough of her boyfriend taking out his confused "hiding in the closet" rage on her, but she was still too polite to do the dumping herself as she is a lady.


At least we kept the dog.

;)


Jokes Irish people, i love you guys. Well more than the Welsh, French and most of the scottish.
 
Itoje was immense his pure physical gifts make up for his slight lack of height and having him in the locks makes up slightly for the lack of true 7
 
Itoje was immense his pure physical gifts make up for his slight lack of height and having him in the locks makes up slightly for the lack of true 7

Itoje brushing off Biggar for the first try was absolutely quality. We shouldn't get too far ahead of ourselves but he does look the real deal. Hopefully he can stay injury free. It seems as though if you're a second row is this England squad and you get injured, you're going to have a to wait a while to get back in because your replacement is going to be class and make it difficult to drop.

Exciting though.
 
I think a little more credit should be given to Wales for the way they finished the match. I find it a little disrespectful from some on here to assume it was solely because of English subs that Wales scored those try's. I thought England were meant to have an unbelievable bench too? England were down to 14 men due to the pressure Wales were already putting them under, so I don't see that as an excuse either.

For me the biggest difference were the Wales subs. Ken Owens had a big impact, we started actually winning lineout ball that we were unable to do in the first half. We finally started protecting the ball at the breakdown. And the biggest difference was Webb. His service and speed of decision making was a step up from Davies'. Finally, we started to actually play some rugby. We got North into space, and he looked lethal, Jon Davies and Liam Williams looked far more comfortable, and Faletau became far more prominent.

I'm not denying here that England were the better team on the whole (and by quite a stretch). They pressured us in every department in the first half, and probably should have scored a couple more try's. But Wales were also shocking, partly due to pressure from England, and partly due to our own inaccuracy and game plan.

I hope this is the final shred pf evidence that causes Gatland and co to completely rethink their tactical approach. We are better than the first 60min today suggested, but not until we finally evolve our game.

England will get better, as will NZ, Aus and SA. We haven't in the last 4+ years and that isn't good enough!
 
I always knew the Welsh boys had an inflated opinion of their team but these type comments are amazing. No technical analysis needed... a better side forced your mistakes.

I ****ing hope Gatland doesn't get the Lions job next year. Watching 14 Welsh lads and Jonathan Sexton was trying enough last time. This time i'd have to top myself.:D

Just watching the game - that's all. Look at the point count. it took England how many minutes to score how many points. And it took Wales how many minutes to score how many points? LOL who needs 'technical analysis'. Its not rocket science. But yeah, for 60 minutes England were way better. But a game is 80 mins when all said and done.

Oh and please don't top yourself. You're way too much entertainment for that. Corny by name, Corny by nature LOL.
 
Good day for England but what has happened to Wales. England far the better side - posts saying about pre 65 minutes show the desperation in Wales to justify a poor performance that if anyone else had given over recent years they would have been the first to jump on. My worry is Wales management - it appears stagnant but is rated the best to take the Lions to the Southern Hemisphere. Wales have drawn with Ireland and effectively stuffed by England today apart from 10 minutes when they were given a one man advantage by a very average referee (and England had already had a fair try disallowed). If the Scots get a good result tomorrow and next week it will be fantastic for eh 6 nations which I am a massive fan of (and not England). Please Wales fan be more objective
 
Just watching the game - that's all. Look at the point count. it took England how many minutes to score how many points. And it took Wales how many minutes to score how many points? LOL who needs 'technical analysis'. Its not rocket science. But yeah, for 60 minutes England were way better. But a game is 80 mins when all said and done.

Oh and please don't top yourself. You're way too much entertainment for that. Corny by name, Corny by nature LOL.
It took Emgland 80 minutes to score 25 and Wales 80 minutes to score 21. England were the better team, the game was only close because at their worst England somehow managed to be worse than Wales at theirs.
 
That would explain things. Emgland have been playing, as well as England, so they're getting extra rest!
 
It's quite worrying how England switch off in the 2nd half. That's now Ireland and Wales we have dominated the first half then gone to sleep in the second. It seems the squad are complacent and intensity drops right off. Jones is going to need to fix that or start making the subs earlier.
 
I think a little more credit should be given to Wales for the way they finished the match. I find it a little disrespectful from some on here to assume it was solely because of English subs that Wales scored those try's. I thought England were meant to have an unbelievable bench too? England were down to 14 men due to the pressure Wales were already putting them under, so I don't see that as an excuse either.
It's a fair point but I really question how likely it would of been they'd have scored 2 trys had England not had a 'comfotable' lead at that point. Seen plenty of team go off the boil late match when everything is done and dusted by looks of things and concede some late trys and be poor compared to rest of the game.

Decent benches usually work in tight games or chasing a lead like it did for Wales today. But I've never really seen them work well for a comfortable lead except to pull off players you don't wish to see injured.

Wales were no doubt gearing towards a try towards the end there hence Cole's binning. However I do think we were rather soft it letting you score 2.
 
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