[2015 Six Nations] Ireland vs England (Round 3)

[Leonormous Boozer]

I think we'll see Fitzgerald to 11 and Zebo to 23 for this one. Fitz coming into midfield brings more of a threat than Zebo and I can see him getting through JJ and Burrell. I have Ireland down as tight favourites due to home advantage. Missing Heaslip isn't great but I'm a huge fan of Murphy at 8 and we don't lose a lot there. Having Healy back and O'Brien with more match fitness could be the difference between winning and losing.

England have a marginal advantage up front largely due to having a few more explosive ball carriers. Ireland have a similar advantage in the backs due to our halfbacks and back three, along with the defence. I think Joe Schmidt being the better operator of the two coaches could provide the difference.

 

[Aristodemus]

The cross field kick to Bowe on May screams nightmare scenario to me. I will reserve judgement until I see the team Lancaster names.

 

[Tony Manx]

The cross field kick to Bowe on May screams nightmare scenario to me. I will reserve judgement until I see the team Lancaster names.

I agree and if May plays......................England are doomed I say dooooooooomed!!!

 

[TRF_Olyy]

The cross field kick to Bowe on May screams nightmare scenario to me.

Why?
I'd feel safer in that scenario than a 1 on 1 with Bowe running full tilt down the wing.

All signs point towards an epic bumming.

Probably.
You've got ****house centres, a tighthead who can't scrummage, O'Brien looks massively off the pace, as does Sexton - poor man's Sheridan has barely set foot on a rugby pitch in the last decade. Two backs moves (the loop and the kick to the winger), a fullback more interested in diving and shoving people after the whistle than playing rugby and a flanker at 9.
We're going to tear you a new one.

Also this, ffs

 

[Aristodemus]

Anything involving Bowe vrs May in an Irish attack is a nightmare scenario Olyy!

 

[j'nuh]

Y'all crazy. There are things that May doesn't do so well. Defending isn't one of them.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Like last week where he tried to stroke the Italian into touch...

 

[TheSaffycen]

 

[Tony Manx]

Y'all crazy. There are things that May doesn't do so well. Defending isn't one of them.

Come on fella!!! You have to be jesting!!!

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

I heard May is a better winger than bowe because he can turn invisible when no ones watching.....I swear down!

 

[j'nuh]

One defensive slip up doesn't define a player's career. And yeah, perhaps other players would have stopped Morisi but May's not exactly the most physical of wingers. In a pushing contest, taking Morisi on at the side, May was never really going to win. What May did wrong was not actually failing to push Morisi into touch, but rather being slightly out of position and not meeting Morisi more head on. May got caught out of position by soft hands. It's a fairly costly learning experience, but it's one that's not likely to come up too often.

Seriously, it wasn't just me that was saying that May's defending was great a few weeks ago. His drifting is top notch in snuffing out attacks. Unlike many wingers, he doesn't charge out of the line to take on a 2 vs 1. He runs backwards and laterally in order to give the second defender time to join the line and he does it very well. The number of attacks he snuffed out during the Autumn Internationals by doing that was enough to get a fair bit of praise on here. What you lose in physicality near the line, you gain in his expertise in taking on a backline move.

I know it's become popular to dislike May now on the back of a couple of poor performances, but if you look at his career, rather than the last game, you do see that he's a great defender. He's also got the raw ability in attack. What he lacks is physicality and composure. He seems to get flustered on the international stage in the moment and does things I wouldn't see him do for club. I hope it's something he can work through, because his club form demands that he's in the England XV.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Why?
I'd feel safer in that scenario than a 1 on 1 with Bowe running full tilt down the wing.




Probably.
You've got ****house centres, a tighthead who can scrummage, O'Brien looks massively off the pace, as does Sexton - poor man's Sheridan has barely set foot on a rugby pitch in the last decade. Two backs moves (the loop and the kick to the winger), a fullback more interested in diving and shoving people after the whistle than playing rugby and a flanker at 9.
We're going to tear you a new one.


Also this, ffs

Our centres are a bit like the 38th parallel, not much happens there but you don't get past and on the rare occasion something does happen it's dangerous.
Yes.
Did you see O'Brien's clear out? James Haskell's mum as writing him a "sick note" as we speak.
Sexton looks more like a blowfish right now after Bastreaud's botched cosmetic surgery and Basta went to a far more reputable med school than Luther.
Healy is going to make Joe Marler look like such a child that Marler going to get back together with the girlfriend he had when he was 13 and start revising simple algebra again.
Conor Murray and Rob Kearney are both on such a ridiculous plane of sexiness that no man can compete with them... I know... Trust me.


As for Engerland...
Dylan Hartley will gift a Ireland 6-9 points before walking into the stand, cock slapping the ref's wife and getting a red card.
Chris Robshaw is good when the other team don't want to ruck, a bit like how JJ is good when the other side assume he's paid for VIP access to their try line.
Ben Youngs literally broke last time he wore white in Lansdowne, had he been a horse he'd have been put down.
George Ford is cute, a little bit like watching my younger brother pretend to be Brian O'Driscoll in the back garden when he was 6.
Remember that time when Mike Brown was good? It seems so long ago now that he's just a grumpy, aesthetic octogenarian.


So all in all, after falling for them on many occasions, we'll be seeing Jonny May giving wraparounds come Sunday evening.

 

[TheSaffycen]

Also at fault with Haskell for the Welsh try.

 

[martinspoonboy1]

One defensive slip up doesn't define a player's career. And yeah, perhaps other players would have stopped Morisi but May's not exactly the most physical of wingers. In a pushing contest, taking Morisi on at the side, May was never really going to win. What May did wrong was not actually failing to push Morisi into touch, but rather being slightly out of position and not meeting Morisi more head on. May got caught out of position by soft hands. It's a fairly costly learning experience, but it's one that's not likely to come up too often.

Seriously, it wasn't just me that was saying that May's defending was great a few weeks ago. His drifting is top notch in snuffing out attacks. Unlike many wingers, he doesn't charge out of the line to take on a 2 vs 1. He runs backwards and laterally in order to give the second defender time to join the line and he does it very well. The number of attacks he snuffed out during the Autumn Internationals by doing that was enough to get a fair bit of praise on here. What you lose in physicality near the line, you gain in his expertise in taking on a backline move.

I know it's become popular to dislike May now on the back of a couple of poor performances, but if you look at his career, rather than the last game, you do see that he's a great defender. He's also got the raw ability in attack. What he lacks is physicality and composure. He seems to get flustered on the international stage in the moment and does things I wouldn't see him do for club. I hope it's something he can work through, because his club form demands that he's in the England XV.

LOL :lol:

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Our centres are a bit like the 38th parallel, not much happens there but you don't get past and on the rare occasion something does happen it's dangerous.
Yes.
Did you see O'Brien's clear out? James Haskell's mum as writing him a "sick note" as we speak.
Sexton looks more like a blowfish right now after Bastreaud's botched cosmetic surgery and Basta went to a far more reputable med school than Luther.
Healy is going to make Joe Marler look like such a child that Marler going to get back together with the girlfriend he had when he was 13 and start revising simple algebra again.
Conor Murray and Rob Kearney are both on such a ridiculous plane of sexiness that no man can compete with them... I know... Trust me.


As for Engerland...
Dylan Hartley will gift a Ireland 6-9 points before walking into the stand, cock slapping the ref's wife and getting a red card.
Chris Robshaw is good when the other team don't want to ruck, a bit like how JJ is good when the other side assume he's paid for VIP access to their try line.
Ben Youngs literally broke last time he wore white in Lansdowne, had he been a horse he'd have been put down.
George Ford is cute, a little bit like watching my younger brother pretend to be Brian O'Driscoll in the back garden when he was 6.
Remember that time when Mike Brown was good? It seems so long ago now that he's just a grumpy, aesthetic octogenarian.


So all in all, after falling for them on many occasions, we'll be seeing Jonny May giving wraparounds come Sunday evening.

Arrogant

 

[Maverick1987]

Our centres are a bit like the 38th parallel, not much happens there but you don't get past and on the rare occasion something does happen it's dangerous.
Yes.
Did you see O'Brien's clear out? James Haskell's mum as writing him a "sick note" as we speak.
Sexton looks more like a blowfish right now after Bastreaud's botched cosmetic surgery and Basta went to a far more reputable med school than Luther.
Healy is going to make Joe Marler look like such a child that Marler going to get back together with the girlfriend he had when he was 13 and start revising simple algebra again.
Conor Murray and Rob Kearney are both on such a ridiculous plane of sexiness that no man can compete with them... I know... Trust me.


As for Engerland...
Dylan Hartley will gift a Ireland 6-9 points before walking into the stand, cock slapping the ref's wife and getting a red card.
Chris Robshaw is good when the other team don't want to ruck, a bit like how JJ is good when the other side assume he's paid for VIP access to their try line.
Ben Youngs literally broke last time he wore white in Lansdowne, had he been a horse he'd have been put down.
George Ford is cute, a little bit like watching my younger brother pretend to be Brian O'Driscoll in the back garden when he was 6.
Remember that time when Mike Brown was good? It seems so long ago now that he's just a grumpy, aesthetic octogenarian.


So all in all, after falling for them on many occasions, we'll be seeing Jonny May giving wraparounds come Sunday evening.

This !!!!!!!

Is EPIC .....

 

[Feicarsinn]

Arrogant

Just close your eyes and continue your embarrassing retreat from empire hun, we promise not to laugh.

 

[goodNumber10]

Masi's hands in that try....beautiful.

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What May did wrong was not actually failing to push Morisi into touch, but rather being slightly out of position and not meeting Morisi more head on.

 

[Aristodemus]

Fair is fair, there are some things that May can do extremely well.

He is great at running sideways, an expert in the arts of butchering certain tries, his lack of trust in himself and teammates is legendary and I also appreciate the fact he can fling the ball in Mike Browns face to dodge a tackle.

I won't mask it, I have never liked him, he just isn't good enough and he makes terrible decisions that create pressure on the team and others. We don't need that.

 

[munstermuffin]

Lads can ye all keep it down FFS. We all know Munster vs Glasgow on Saturday is the big game.

As for this I'll be cheeky and start it off.

Brown > Kearney
Bowe > Watson
Joseph > Payne
Henshaw > Burrell
Nowell = Zebo
Sexton > Ford
Murray > Youngs
Billy V > Murphy
Robshaw = SOB
POM > Haskell
2nd rows equal as duo
Overall England probably shade it in front row.
Have Robshaw = SOB as Robshaw has been superb thus far and SOB still getting back.also put in Nowell as I've feeling he may return