Cheltenham at lunchtime (unfortunately, I do wander across in front of the camera):
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Let me guess. The fella in the Canterbury top?
Nope, holding a placard, and looks like he wishes he was somewhere elss
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**** you're old
Yup, that's why I only play walking rugby!**** you're old
So, according to Gove, if Government passes a law that is inconvenient for Johnson/Cummings, they may decide to just ignore it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49541942
Another win for "take back control"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49541942
Another win for "take back control"
Seriously what happens if the government refuses to abide by abide legislation set by parliament?
Utter madness.
Utter madness.
Constitutional crisis
Demonstrations turning into riots?
Within the commons, could we see an MP attempting a citizen's arrest on Boris? Could the cops be called? Armed police?
If an act has passed commons, lords, and commons a second time, but the PM refuses to send for royal signature - is it already law? Or just precedent? Would a law actually be being broken? Is it treason?
Now I don't think they would. Cummings would, but I think the lifelong politicians would overule him at that point, but they could try side-stepoing it by calling a GE instead, and try that publicised tactic of holding it in November.
The other rumoured work-around is that Boris would request an extension from the EU, and then use Britain's veto to reject it (which surely can't be true, I'm sure Theresa had to wait outside the room whilst they discussed previous extensions)
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There is also talk of BoJo refusing to resign if he loses a vote of no confidence meaning that the Queen would have to sack him. Crazy stuff.
To the best of my knowledge, he wouldn't have to.
He'd remain party leader, and he remains PM unless and until, he or so some else can command a majority of parliament, and he can't stop them visiting the queen. I guess he could refuse to leave Downing street (in which case, armed police would be on site already to escort him off) or refuse to sit on the other side of the house in which case... I guess they could carry on with business just sitting on different benches.
If no-one can command a majority, then a GE is called, (still with Boris as PM), with the only requirement for timing that it's no less than X days (about 3 weeks), no maximum time frame before holding it. Parliament is dissolved for campaigning from that point. Trying to push that GE into November would be the longest ever, and another constitutional crisis, but as far as I know, there's no means to prevent it - certainly not without taking time in court...
That's why he wants to delay any call for a GE until after the party conferences, which means he could have a 32 day (or less) campaign, which is normal enough.
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One point I feel has been missed about proroguing is that all previous discussions/legislation is immediately halted and just thrown out. So it's not just losing 2-5 days extra outside of party conferences, but anything from now until parliament prorogues because none of it will carry over.
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I heard that stuff can carry over if they decide to go through some procedure for it. It's not like literally everything starts from scratch each time.
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Hmm I thought anything unfinished was just scrapped, but I may be wrong. Obviously unofficial discussions keep going, but in terms of official parliament business nothing carries over.
That's actually part of the plan.
No confidence vote would trigger a GE if Johnson doesn't resign which he doesn't have to. GE goes past the 31st October and we leave the EU by default.
Everyone returns after the General election with the UK having left the EU.
Heard on the radio this morning that the Tories intend on kicking out any MP that votes against them,
That's one way of enforcing the whip
Country over Party and all that....
That's one way of enforcing the whip
Country over Party and all that....
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Yeah it seems so. I think BoJo and co are banking on Corbyn not being able to scrape a majority to form a unity Government which would obviously require some Tory rebels. If he was able to get a majority then I understand that normal protocol would involve the PM going to see the Queen to resign and recommending that she call for Corbyn or whoever is claiming to have a majority. This is when BoJo could potentially break protocol and refuse to go to the Queen and sit tight until after 31 October.
If Johnson were to break protocol, I imagine the Queen would 'demand' his presence. Then discharge him and invite Corbyn to form a government. She mightt even do in absentia if he still refuses to turn up.
Far less likely to cause a constitutional crisis.
Far less likely to cause a constitutional crisis.
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There is just no way I can see a Unity government under Corbyn would last.
The Queen can't demand ****; she will have in the back of her mind to protect the Royal family and the Windsor name well beyond Brexit and it above politics. It's why she allowed Bojo to Porougue Parliament to begin with without a murmur.
The Queen can't demand ****; she will have in the back of her mind to protect the Royal family and the Windsor name well beyond Brexit and it above politics. It's why she allowed Bojo to Porougue Parliament to begin with without a murmur.
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