Nation Eligibilty Catch-All Thread

[pagliaccio_euforico]

nah Lowe & Company only moved to play professional rugby. That's such a tenuous connection that residency should toll during that time. Same for all the French guys.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

nah Lowe & Company only moved to play professional rugby. That's such a tenuous connection that residency should toll during that time. Same for all the French guys.

I meant citizenship in that last post, changed now, not that I think it changes your point.

I don't see it as much different than moving here to work for Google or whoever, its a job and once you're a citizen you should be able to do your job for Ireland. The weird thing obviously being that most jobs don't have an international representative level. But motive to move shouldn't be a consideration imo.

Don't think it's an opinion many will agree with but it's the way I see it.

Representing two nations is an issue for me though, I can understand it if it's a move from one tier to another but beyond that it's bullshit.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

I'm a muppet. It's an old article that for some reason kind of popped up as a new one on their website. I did wonder why they had waited 9 months to produce it.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

John Cooney: Ireland scrum-half considering switch to Scotland - BBC Sport

Ireland scrum-half John Cooney can switch allegiance to Scotland in February under World Rugby’s new eligibility rules.

www.google.com

lol

 

[McTallshort]

John Cooney: Ireland scrum-half considering switch to Scotland - BBC Sport

Ireland scrum-half John Cooney can switch allegiance to Scotland in February under World Rugby’s new eligibility rules.

www.google.com

lol

Has he got any English in him? Long term replacement of Youngs

 

[Scotty]

John Cooney: Ireland scrum-half considering switch to Scotland - BBC Sport

Ireland scrum-half John Cooney can switch allegiance to Scotland in February under World Rugby’s new eligibility rules.

www.google.com

lol

He says his Dad is a proud Scotsman so if he did it for a year to honour his Dad then i dont mind it....and if world rugby make stupid laws then by all means he can exploit them for his own gain if he just wants to play international rugby.

 

[General Melchett]

I'd rather have Finlay Christie TBH. He's more Scottish than all our Springjocks combined.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Can't blame Cooney at all. Face never fit in the Ireland set up. Can't blame Scotland either if they rate him.

Can blame this ridiculous rule, he played for us in this RWC cycle like.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

I hope countries come out and say "this rule is stupid we will be using it until WR changes it".
I have no problem with countries using it and not getting in trouble but it shouldn't be the status quo. If the Pacific Nations want to use it in their tournaments and tests between them then fine. If the second tier of Rugby Europe Championships wants to use it so that Sweden can bring in some experience than that is great. It could be a great tool to get rugby knowledge into tier 3 nations.

It shouldn't be used in the World Cup or WCQ. I think that the Six Nations and any other tournament should be able to say that those players should be ineligible for that tournament. Maybe players should be permanently cap-tied for tournaments.

 

[Booboobang]

Cooney would be a weird one, not sure he offers anything more than the options already there, maybe just play george thorne.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Cooney would be a weird one, not sure he offers anything more than the options already there, maybe just play george thorne.

He would go straight to that 21 shirt for me - still a cracking player

 

[General Melchett]

Price was a bit meh in the AI's. Townsend doesn't seem to trust Horne and so it'd probably be a shoot out between Cooney and Ben White.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Italy introduce limit of 7 non-Italian qualified players in the Zebre and Benetton 23s. Positive for the long term but may cause short term pain and kill any hope Benetton have of reaching playoffs. A strange decision to make mid-season when squads have been constructed around different rules.



Hopefully it's a position taken from optimism at giving game time to a good generation of u20s from the past 2 or 3 years.

 

[Booboobang]

Italy introduce limit of 7 non-Italian qualified players in the Zebre and Benetton 23s. Positive for the long term but may cause short term pain and kill any hope Benetton have of reaching playoffs. A strange decision to make mid-season when squads have been constructed around different rules.



Hopefully it's a position taken from optimism at giving game time to a good generation of u20s from the past 2 or 3 years.

Pretty much agree with you 100%. Surely this is a move you make at the beginning or end of a season?

But this is likely a very good tihng for italian rugby with such a solid crop of youngsters coming through.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Good news on the player eligibility front. I never thought I'd type that. Am I missing something in the article below?

Foreign-Born / Produced / Trained Players in 2023 Six Nations - Americas Rugby News

The 2023 Six Nations sees changes in player eligibility to that from prior years. World Rugby’s elig

www.americasrugbynews.com

Scotland may be selecting capped Aussies and Englishmen but there are signs the NH Tier1 are going to have to increasingly depend on home grown players due to the residency changes. A sharp drop in the number of foreign born 6N players this year, particularly for Wales and Italy.

Even as an eligibility zealot I'd struggle to put anyone other than Scotland on the naughty step with these squads. I'm really surprised to see this improvement in a RWC year too when coaches will be desperately scraping around for any eligible player to give an edge. It bodes well. In contrast, tripe like this should be a rarity.

England cap Ruaridh McConnochie surprise call-up to Scotland's Six Nations training squad

Uncapped quartet Ruaridh McConnochie, Ben Healy, Stafford McDowall and Cameron Henderson all named in Scotland's Six Nations training squad

www.theoffsideline.com

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Twenty out of Scotland's twenty-one foreign-born players are not homegrown. This means 95% of Scotland's foreign-born players were trained and produced by rivals. Two-thirds of Scotland's foreign-born players have represented other countries in some capacity.

Even if I were to over egg it for the purposes of **** posting I wouldn't have thought it was that bad

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Byron McGuigan switching from Scotland to Namibia

McGuigan becomes latest international to switch countries

Byron McGuigan is preparing for a 5,387 mile journey from Manchester to Windhoek that will transform the Sale Sharks wing from a Scotland...

www.rugbypass.com

 

[Reiser99]

People in Scotland are like "WTF!? Other countries can steal our players too. I didn't realise that."

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

People in Scotland are like "WTF!? Other countries can steal our players too. I didn't realise that."

I take the point, but he is a about as Saffa as they come.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

I take the point, but he is an about as Saffa as they come.

Just like most of the Scottish squad.




Just kidding everyone!