Yep thats just the way it is......Originally posted by Black-Monday@Jul 23 2006, 12:20 PM
Yes, but Iraq ignored probably just one UN resolution and we came down on their ass with everything we/the US had, Israel ignores numerous pleas but they are ignored. Israel = land of US money.
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The other thing that annoys me about the Americans, they have their first act of Terrorism on their own soil and there is a massive deal, I am not saying the Twin Towers was not shocking and devestating... but We suffered decades of acts of Terrorism where many civillians were killed in England during the IRA bombings, but the Americans were subsidising them, especially in New York, where they have collections on bars and even collected money on the St Patricks Day Parade... so they were funding the IRA to build equipment to blow up innocent British people... that is one of my Major Gripes about Americans, and especially New Yorkers... [/b]
They're lunatics, but at the same time they're also not going to do anything that they think will jeapordise their security... Remember that essentially the issue at the heart of all international conflict is security.Originally posted by St Helens RLFC@Jul 24 2006, 05:51 PM
But lets be honest - the Iranians are lunatics, from the top downwards.
Or lack, thereof.Originally posted by sanzar@Jul 27 2006, 04:27 AM
the issue at the heart of all international conflict is security.
Bingo. The international system is by defenition anarchic and security has long been considered (be those of the realist school) a relative gain... so everytime you increase your own security you decrease the relative security of those around you (providing this is military security), thus making the prospect of security itself very difficult to attain. Of course countries from the developed world are generally far more eager to solve any problems they have with each other diplomatically because of the apparent lack of profitability in going to war when the cost is likely to outweigh any gains.Originally posted by St Helens RLFC+Jul 27 2006, 06:48 PM--><!--QuoteBegin-sanzarOr lack, thereof. [/b]@Jul 27 2006, 04:27 AM
the issue at the heart of all international conflict is security.
That's a load of bull. Israel struck first and you know it - they bombed Lebanon in revenge for Hizbollah's capture of 3 soldiers, which was in turn revenge for the imprisonment of two Hizbollah militants in Israel. Confusing, I know.Originally posted by DC13@Jul 20 2006, 01:23 AM
hezzbollah bombed them first, are they to just sit there and wait for the next few rockets to fly into haifa(sp?)??
yeah, and for holding about 1000 palestinian muslims without charges...Originally posted by Jacko+Jul 27 2006, 09:23 PM--><!--QuoteBegin-DC13That's a load of bull. Israel struck first and you know it - they bombed Lebanon in revenge for Hizbollah's capture of 3 soldiers, which was in turn revenge for the imprisonment of two Hizbollah militants in Israel. Confusing, I know.@Jul 20 2006, 01:23 AM
hezzbollah bombed them first, are they to just sit there and wait for the next few rockets to fly into haifa(sp?)??
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Your a f***tard.Originally posted by Jacko+Jul 27 2006, 10:23 PM--><!--QuoteBegin-DC13That's a load of bull. Israel struck first and you know it - they bombed Lebanon in revenge for Hizbollah's capture of 3 soldiers, which was in turn revenge for the imprisonment of two Hizbollah militants in Israel. Confusing, I know.@Jul 20 2006, 01:23 AM
hezzbollah bombed them first, are they to just sit there and wait for the next few rockets to fly into haifa(sp?)??
What's also interesting is the strike rate (how many soldiers/militants have been killed) of the two sides. Hizbollah has the far better one, having only killed 51 Israelis and well over 50% were infact soldiers of Israel. Israelis have killed 443 Lebanese, but less than 7% are actually of Hizbollah. That statistic is also similar for the percentage out of 150 Palestinians killed in recent attacks in revenge for 1, that's right just ONE Israeli soldier executed under Palestinian custody.
And we're suppossed to believe that Israel aren't the terrorists?! [/b]
But that counts under the rules of engagement under the UN, bombing Innocent civilians and civilian structures is not.Originally posted by Ripper+Jul 28 2006, 02:49 PM-->Originally posted by Jacko@Jul 27 2006, 10:23 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-DC13Your a f***tard.@Jul 20 2006, 01:23 AM
hezzbollah bombed them first, are they to just sit there and wait for the next few rockets to fly into haifa(sp?)??
That's a load of bull. Israel struck first and you know it - they bombed Lebanon in revenge for Hizbollah's capture of 3 soldiers, which was in turn revenge for the imprisonment of two Hizbollah militants in Israel. Confusing, I know.
What's also interesting is the strike rate (how many soldiers/militants have been killed) of the two sides. Hizbollah has the far better one, having only killed 51 Israelis and well over 50% were infact soldiers of Israel. Israelis have killed 443 Lebanese, but less than 7% are actually of Hizbollah. That statistic is also similar for the percentage out of 150 Palestinians killed in recent attacks in revenge for 1, that's right just ONE Israeli soldier executed under Palestinian custody.
And we're suppossed to believe that Israel aren't the terrorists?!
The Arabs struck first when they kidnapped the soliders... or did your greenie social studies teacher forget to mention that during her little anti-jew speech yesterday? Theres a difference between arresting and imprisoning Terrorist mass-murderers and kidnapping soliders on patrol in their own country.
And maybe if your heroic freedom fighters weren't cowardly using civilians (the majority who no doubt support them in their support of the extermination of the Jews i.e Genocide) as human shields the collateral damage numbers wouldn't be so high. [/b]
