Transfers rumours

[RedruthRFC]

The Daily Mail article (Google sent me there, honest) that mentions this also says that Mallinder and West are under pressure and that their future depends on the outcome of the George North hearing, which seems strange to me.

 

[welshglory]

Gives Northampton cause for terminating the rest of their contracts perhaps?

 

[ratsapprentice]

Wonder what Cockerill will do? Australia?

Opens the door for Johnson?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Wonder what Cockerill will do? Australia?

Opens the door for Johnson?

100% think he would go France.

His son was born in France and he still has links with Clermont.

Maybe Tigers bring in Johnson and Rowntree or maybe someone completely from the outside?

Quite a few ex Tigers around the world coaching currently I guess.


Would be interesting to see if Johnson does get back into coaching. Hope he does he wasn't a bad coach IMO just inexperienced with inexperienced international coaches around him. The pool of talent has certainly gotten thicker and better since those days.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Rowntree going would be a huge kick in the teeth, and TBH, he's probably got it pretty good with Quins at the moment.

Lot's of young forwards/front rowers (Sinckler, Boyce, Ibuanokpe) to make a big impact on... he's also probably living in the same house he's been in since starting with England all those years ago (West Sussex is a pretty damn comfy place to live)

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Can't see him turning down Tigers if they offered him a top job TBH.

 

[McTallshort]

Not entirely sad to see Cockers go, sometimes people stay in a position too long and things need to freshen up.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

West Sussex is a pretty damn comfy place to live)

Take it you've never been to Crawley?

I had quite high hopes for Tigers before the season started but it's not really happening. Some of their recruitment's been a bit odd, especially in their traditional areas of strength up front.

It feels like there's something up in the Saints dressing room. There are some very good players that Mallinder's just not getting a tune out of.

I'm against knee jerk sackings but both Cockers and Mallinder have had fair cracks of the whip and maybe regime change is needed at both clubs.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Fully understood, my point was directed at living sacrifice, who used the word "mental". I totally agree with your point. Players develop at different rates and in some cases while big enough for age group rugby, aren't big enough for the professional game. Not meaning to single him out for special abuse, but Joel Conlon stood out to me as someone who would fall foul of this syndrome and it is proving thus. As I said, simple numbers suggest that England age group honours are far from a guarantee of a long successful professional career in the game - there just aren't enough jobs to go around.

I guess the mental part was the specific person. He still did all the conditioning and everything himself. Still played rugby at a lower level and outshone everyone. Kept getting asked my Worcester to join their academy but didn't....even though all he talked about was playing rugby.

Maybe mental was a bit strong, but when these lads get a chance to play rugby and do a degree as well it would have to be a hard decision.

I think fail sometimes to understand people I can't relate to.

 

[j'nuh]

Leicester Tigers have not once finished outside the top 4 in the Premiership since Cockerill has been in charge and are fairly comfortably fourth at the minute. I would love for Gloucester to be as 'bad' as Tigers are!

 

[munstermuffin]

Cockers to get da Boot.

Hope he doesn't. Genuinely a good guy and just has had bad fortunes last few weeks.

 

[curtbob7]

Sorry for the random question but does anyone on here have any idea what Alex Corbiseiro is doing?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Commentary for NBC rugby in America and part time coaching England u20s while on a year sabbatical to try and get over his injury problems.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Leicester Tigers have not once finished outside the top 4 in the Premiership since Cockerill has been in charge and are fairly comfortably fourth at the minute. I would love for Gloucester to be as 'bad' as Tigers are!

Tigers have finished outside the top 4 in the premiership just twice in the last 26 years.

It's pretty ruthless stuff but we sacked the coach that won back to back European trophies for not much worse.

 

[RedruthRFC]

Leicester Tigers have not once finished outside the top 4 in the Premiership since Cockerill has been in charge and are fairly comfortably fourth at the minute. I would love for Gloucester to be as 'bad' as Tigers are!

Not by my definition of fairly comfortable j'nuh. Thanks to bonus points, they're only a league point ahead of Exeter and have worse points difference. If the atmosphere is as toxic (or whatever word was used) as has been suggested, I'd say that he has to go irrespective of results.

 

[Peat]

Leicester Tigers have not once finished outside the top 4 in the Premiership since Cockerill has been in charge and are fairly comfortably fourth at the minute. I would love for Gloucester to be as 'bad' as Tigers are!

A lot of teams would love to be as 'bad' as Leicester are, but Leicester should measure themselves by their own standards and by those they're definitely underperforming.

 

[munstermuffin]

In fairness the injury list has been desperate. Like its over half a starting team

 

[brokenoses]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38316552

Sladey is staying put and half of Devon can now un-clench. Thanks Fissler, you nob.

Lets see Slade at 10 from now on please Mr Baxter!

 

[j'nuh]

A lot of teams would love to be as 'bad' as Leicester are, but Leicester should measure themselves by their own standards and by those they're definitely underperforming.

Should they though? At one point they were dominant because they pulled in crowds like no other team (they still do) and were able to sustain much larger budgets than other teams largely from gate receipts.

Through a combination of the salary cap, increasing central funding from television deals and the RFU, rich people bankrolling other teams etc., the Tigers' impressive attendance figures no longer count for as much. Tigers can't automatically outspend teams anymore, so I think the expectation from Tigers' fans should be rebalanced. Gloucester are paying as much, if not more, on their squad, yet routinely finish below Tigers. I'm not really seeing why Tigers should have higher expectations to be honest.

 

[Peat]

Should they though? At one point they were dominant because they pulled in crowds like no other team (they still do) and were able to sustain much larger budgets than other teams largely from gate receipts.

Through a combination of the salary cap, increasing central funding from television deals and the RFU, rich people bankrolling other teams etc., the Tigers' impressive attendance figures no longer count for as much. Tigers can't automatically outspend teams anymore, so I think the expectation from Tigers' fans should be rebalanced. Gloucester are paying as much, if not more, on their squad, yet routinely finish below Tigers. I'm not really seeing why Tigers should have higher expectations to be honest.

Yes they should. They're still seen as a big club and therefore attract better players for less money than most clubs. The squad they have should be achieving more than they do.