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Ai, must suck for the Stormers fans. Habana has been **** since moving to the Stormers, going through a massive dry spell and now that he has found his old form he might be moving to France

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Mafi may be off to France or Japan as Leicester can't offer him the same amount of wages as clubs in either of those countries

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3823_8330722,00.html
Summer is shaping up to be a worrying time for the Tigers, with Parling, Mafi and Ford rumoured to be going, and Murphy probably retiring. They need to start getting active in bringing players in. They were rumoured to be bringing in Kvesic not too long ago... would be a start! (Although not a priority - Salvi is a great openside.)
 
Ai, must suck for the Stormers fans. Habana has been **** since moving to the Stormers, going through a massive dry spell and now that he has found his old form he might be moving to France

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LOL, that was my exact first thought.

We'll miss his experience and newly found form for sure but strangely enough I'm not overly upset. In the back three we still have Aplon, Taute, Pietersen and Van den Heever who have been around the block (test rugby must count for extra in young Taute's case) and there are young guys who'll be able to fill that gap even with our recent losses of Poolman, Engelbrecht etc. Between De Allende and our young centers (Du Plessis, Brache, Mbovane and Howard) we'll be fine for back-up if needed (or rather when needed).

Him moving on will certainly lighten the drain on our coffers as I understand he was our top payed player if I didn't hear incorrectly? We can afford to drop Liebenberg, JdV and Bekker as well IMO as I don't think we are getting our money's worth.
 
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No doubt we will hear Cockerill moaning endlessly about the salary cap all summer whilst poaching all the best Worcester/Sale/Newcastle players at the same time and also building a squad with more internationals than every other one in the league.
 
Cockerill...........moan..................salary cap...............same sentence?

Who would have thought!!
 
No doubt we will hear Cockerill moaning endlessly about the salary cap all summer whilst poaching all the best Worcester/Sale/Newcastle players at the same time and also building a squad with more internationals than every other one in the league.

As a fan of the salary cap, I don't really have a problem with Cockerill complaining about an artificial restriction which impairs him more than just about any coach - and frankly am gradually coming round to the point of view that it is doing a good deal of harm to English rugby.
 
No doubt we will hear Cockerill moaning endlessly about the salary cap all summer whilst poaching all the best Worcester/Sale/Newcastle players at the same time and also building a squad with more internationals than every other one in the league.
Leicester's signing strategy is found wanting imo. They eat up too much of their salary by signing moderate-talent players from the bottom-end of the top divisions who only play second-fiddle to their international players and then can't afford to keep hold of all of their prized assets or give regular game time to their young stars. If they cite the salary cap as an issue for losing players like Parling, you have to wonder why they have 4 scrum-halves on the cards for example. My biggest criticism of Leicester is that they seem to have an aversion to signing from outside the top leagues. Teams can find gems in the Championship and for what I'm guessing is a lot less money than their Premiership counterparts. (Championship players are mostly happy for the exposure to a higher standard of rugby, in front of bigger crowds and a chance to kick on with their career --- money is less of an object to them.)

As a fan of the salary cap, I don't really have a problem with Cockerill complaining about an artificial restriction which impairs him more than just about any coach - and frankly am gradually coming round to the point of view that it is doing a good deal of harm to English rugby.
Nah, I think that the salary cap is the best thing that can happen for the development of youth.

1. It avoids teams loading their squad with foreign stars which stops development. (Look at the Sarries: Jamie George is one of the best prospects at hooker for England, and is stuck doing nothing behind Smit and Brits - imagine if the Sarries could afford to do this in every position.)

2. It avoids the top teams loading their squad with other teams' prospects and then aren't given an extended chance to prove themselves. We see this in football - all the youth snapped up by the biggest teams and then get discarded after a lack of progress when they're not given enough time in a huge squad. (Look at what's happened at the Tigers: Micky Young brought in as a top prospect and then not getting the game time to go further. Or the Twelvetrees saga. Imagine if this could be done across the squad.)
 
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Leicester's signing strategy is found wanting imo. They eat up too much of their salary by signing moderate-talent players from the bottom-end of the top divisions who only play second-fiddle to their international players and then can't afford to keep hold of all of their prized assets or give regular game time to their young stars. If they cite the salary cap as an issue for losing players like Parling, you have to wonder why they have 4 scrum-halves on the cards for example. My biggest criticism of Leicester is that they seem to have an aversion to signing from outside the top leagues. Teams can find gems in the Championship and for what I'm guessing is a lot less money than their Premiership counterparts. (Championship players are mostly happy for the exposure to a higher standard of rugby, in front of bigger crowds and a chance to kick on with their career --- money is less of an object to them.)

Fairly sure Goneva came from the French second division. Slater came from Nottingham. Kitchener was a Championship sub when brought in. They'll look there, and they're certainly not opposed to polishing a rough diamond. Their signing strategy isn't perfect, but its not as bad as people make out. And as for signing moderate talent players from lesser Premiership clubs, some would have called that a good description of Parling himself.

Nah, I think that the salary cap is the best thing that can happen for the development of youth.

1. It avoids teams loading their squad with foreign stars which stops development. (Look at the Sarries: Jamie George is one of the best prospects at hooker for England, and is stuck doing nothing behind Smit and Brits - imagine if the Sarries could afford to do this in every position.)

2. It avoids the top teams loading their squad with other teams' prospects and then aren't given an extended chance to prove themselves. We see this in football - all the youth snapped up by the biggest teams and then get discarded after a lack of progress when they're not given enough time in a huge squad. (Look at what's happened at the Tigers: Micky Young brought in as a top prospect and then not getting the game time to go further. Or the Twelvetrees saga. Imagine if this could be done across the squad.)

Yup, I can see the positives.

But foreign stars can aid development as well as hinder it. Ulster would not be where they are without them. And competition is a good thing. You see Young not getting the gametime to go further, I see Harrison getting the motivation to kick on. Ditto Twelvetrees and Allen. It pushes players. Yes, it causes casualties. But those players can always go away and start again and prove themselves, like Twelvetrees.

Fact is, we still have huge squads in which young players get lost, we still have the top clubs being able to lure in other teams' prospects thanks to a better chance of honours and medals if things go well, and we've still got reams of foreign players bunging things up - just they're not as good, so our young stars don't get to learn from the best, and they don't get the confidence boost of performing well in the HEC as they're in weaker teams, or the educational benefits of playing at the sharp end of the knockout rounds. We also lose more players than we should to France, cutting the potential international pool, and the standard of the league in which our youngsters play.

As such, I see strong benefits in opening the cap up a little more, and allowing those who can to push the standard of the league higher.
 
Fairly sure Goneva came from the French second division. Slater came from Nottingham. Kitchener was a Championship sub when brought in. They'll look there, and they're certainly not opposed to polishing a rough diamond. Their signing strategy isn't perfect, but its not as bad as people make out. And as for signing moderate talent players from lesser Premiership clubs, some would have called that a good description of Parling himself.
True with all (although Kitchener joined from Worcester in the year they steamrolled the Championship, so doesn't count :p). But Slater and Kitchener happened a while ago now.

Still think that Leicester are punching well below their weight because of a poor signing record. Benjamin is the only one that really impressed me from last season, unfortunate on the Tigers for him to go and get a long-term injury from the go!
 
John Smit to Toulon?
I am beginning to feel Mourad has a thing for the 2007 Springbok team.

(I assume everybody has heard Habana to Toulon already)
 
According to some sources and The Rugby Paper ... Cuthbert has / is signing a new 3 year deal with the Blues.
 
L'equipe says Paulica Ion (on loan to London Welsh from L. Irish) is moving to Perpignan for 2 seasons. Good move for him, better team and i guess more money.
 
Wouldn't be surprised, Have heard some rumors that Lahiff, Garvey, Corbisiero & Watson may also be off from LI.
 
Sale to go down this year, Irish the next apparently.
If Irish had a lot of money, they could chuck it at their best players and they could build something. And if Irish picked up some results, they could keep their best players on by saying they're building a decent team for the future. But in reality, Irish are languishing near the bottom of the table around the time that contracts get sorted for next year and have no reason to believe that there's "something special happening". There will be a talent drain - all the best players can be on better money, playing for a team challenging for honours and doing more to boost their international credentials.
 

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