Summer tours - England

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

3 out so far.
The next squad is announced after the a league so makes sense not to just bring someone in.

Captain run
Game
Rest
Final players come in

Just seems pointless to add someone now.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

England training sessions

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

So that's both him and Barbeary out through blue on blue bad facial injuries. Not good.

 

[Nudger]

Barbeary was at wasps

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Barbeary was at wasps

Yeah I know, still a similar injury inflicted by one of his own. I'd deffo have been having a pop at Jones if it had happened in an Eng training session.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

When are we getting the next squad then?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Monday, according to the game cancellation announcement

 

[Reiser99]

Ok so this is the squad still as far as I can tell. There might be some injuries I've missed or call ups.

Positions
Loosehead: Genge, Obano, Davison,
Hooker: Blamire, Capon, Langdon
Tighthead: Heyes, Hill, Rodd
Lock: Ewels, McNally, Wells, Munga
Blindside: Martin, Hill
Openside: Ludlam, Ludlow, Curry
Number 8: Chick

Scrum Half: Randall, Robson, Mitchell,
Fly Half: Umaga
Inside Centre: Kelly, Ojomah
Outside Centre: Lawrence,
Wing: Bassett, Cokanasiga, Sleightholme, Radwan,
Full Back: Malins, Furbank, Steward,

Not replaced: Reid
Unknown: Underhill and Dingwall

This was the team:
15. Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)
14. Adam Radwan (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
13. Ollie Lawrence (Worcester Warriors, 6 caps)
12. Dan Kelly (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)
11. Max Malins (Bristol Bears (loan) / Saracens, 7 caps)
10. Jacob Umaga (Wasps, uncapped)
9. Harry Randall (Bristol Bears, uncapped)
1. Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 28 caps)
2. Curtis Langdon (Sale Sharks, uncapped)
3. Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)
4. Harry Wells (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)
5. Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, 21 caps)
6. Lewis Ludlow (C) (Gloucester Rugby, uncapped)
7. Ben Curry (Sale Sharks, uncapped)
8. Callum Chick (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)

FINISHERS

16. Jamie Blamire (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
17. Beno Obano (Bath Rugby, 1 cap)
18. Trevor Davison (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
19. Ted Hill (Worcester Warriors, 1 cap)
20. Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 8 caps)
21. Dan Robson (Wasps, 12 caps)
22. George Furbank (Northampton Saints, 3 caps)
23. Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 9 caps)

Now assuming Jones continues to rests experienced players who could be called up from Quins or Exeter?
J Simmonds
Devoto
O'Flaherty
Dombrandt
Smith
Marchant
Northmore
Lynagh (If he wants to play for England)
Green (If eligible)

Simmonds and Smith should be in with Umaga or over him.
Dombrandt as well should just come in and keep Chick as well.
I'd personally take Marchant for Dingwall if he's injured.
Underhill doesn't need replacing imo, back row has enough players.
I'd also have O'Flaherty (as I suspect Green and Lynagh won't be available or it's too soon.)

Basically I'm optimistically hoping that Jones will keep almost all of this squad together and won't make too many changes. However, could see the likes of Slade joining, even though there really is no need.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Ok so this is the squad still as far as I can tell. There might be some injuries I've missed or call ups.

Positions
Loosehead: Genge, Obano, Davison,
Hooker: Blamire, Capon, Langdon
Tighthead: Heyes, Hill, Rodd
Lock: Ewels, McNally, Wells, Munga
Blindside: Martin, Hill
Openside: Ludlam, Ludlow, Curry
Number 8: Chick

Scrum Half: Randall, Robson, Mitchell,
Fly Half: Umaga
Inside Centre: Kelly, Ojomah
Outside Centre: Lawrence,
Wing: Bassett, Cokanasiga, Sleightholme, Radwan,
Full Back: Malins, Furbank, Steward,

Not replaced: Reid
Unknown: Underhill and Dingwall

This was the team:
15. Freddie Steward (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)
14. Adam Radwan (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
13. Ollie Lawrence (Worcester Warriors, 6 caps)
12. Dan Kelly (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)
11. Max Malins (Bristol Bears (loan) / Saracens, 7 caps)
10. Jacob Umaga (Wasps, uncapped)
9. Harry Randall (Bristol Bears, uncapped)
1. Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 28 caps)
2. Curtis Langdon (Sale Sharks, uncapped)
3. Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)
4. Harry Wells (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)
5. Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, 21 caps)
6. Lewis Ludlow (C) (Gloucester Rugby, uncapped)
7. Ben Curry (Sale Sharks, uncapped)
8. Callum Chick (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)

FINISHERS

16. Jamie Blamire (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
17. Beno Obano (Bath Rugby, 1 cap)
18. Trevor Davison (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
19. Ted Hill (Worcester Warriors, 1 cap)
20. Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 8 caps)
21. Dan Robson (Wasps, 12 caps)
22. George Furbank (Northampton Saints, 3 caps)
23. Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 9 caps)

Now assuming Jones continues to rests experienced players who could be called up from Quins or Exeter?
J Simmonds
Devoto
O'Flaherty
Dombrandt
Smith
Marchant
Northmore
Lynagh (If he wants to play for England)
Green (If eligible)

Simmonds and Smith should be in with Umaga or over him.
Dombrandt as well should just come in and keep Chick as well.
I'd personally take Marchant for Dingwall if he's injured.
Underhill doesn't need replacing imo, back row has enough players.
I'd also have O'Flaherty (as I suspect Green and Lynagh won't be available or it's too soon.)

Basically I'm optimistically hoping that Jones will keep almost all of this squad together and won't make too many changes. However, could see the likes of Slade joining, even though there really is no need.

Northmore needs to be in with a shout too imo, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Kenningham in there somewhere too, even just as an apprentice

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Tyrone Green: I’m definitely not thinking about qualifying for England

New Harlequins signing Tyrone Green is confident Springbok coach Jacques Nienaber will keep a close eye on him in England.

www.iol.co.za

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Harry Williams will prob get called up for Davison, don't see why you need him now Rodd is in the squad.
Could see Symons come in for someone like McNally or Munga.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I don't think Eddie will take both of Smith and Simmonds
I reckon he'll have Smith and Umaga as his 10s

I've got a lot of time for Kenningham but can't see him being involved - 7 is crazily stacked already

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I really don't see what Jones sees in Umaga. Decent enough 10 but I can't see any facet of his game which is better than Smith or Simmonds.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

I don't see Jones chaning much.
Could see it being

15. Freddie Steward
14. Joe Marchant
13. Ollie Lawrence
12. Dan Kelly
11. Max Malins
10. Macrus Smith
9. Harry Randall
1. Ellis Genge
2. Curtis Langdon
3. Joe Heyes
4. Harry Wells
5. Charlie Ewels
6. Sam Underhill
7. Ben Curry
8. Alex Dombrandt

16. Jamie Blamire
17. Beno Obano
18. Harry Williams
19. George Martin
20. Calum Chick
21. Dan Robson
22. Jacob Umaga
23. Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 9 caps)

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Tyrone Green: I’m definitely not thinking about qualifying for England

New Harlequins signing Tyrone Green is confident Springbok coach Jacques Nienaber will keep a close eye on him in England.

www.iol.co.za

Fair play to him. I'm starting to like the look of his mate Lynagh though.

Marchant has also caught the eye recently.

 

[BPM]

I don't see Jones chaning much.
Could see it being

15. Freddie Steward
14. Joe Marchant
13. Ollie Lawrence
12. Dan Kelly
11. Max Malins
10. Macrus Smith
9. Harry Randall
1. Ellis Genge
2. Curtis Langdon
3. Joe Heyes
4. Harry Wells
5. Charlie Ewels
6. Sam Underhill
7. Ben Curry
8. Alex Dombrandt

16. Jamie Blamire
17. Beno Obano
18. Harry Williams
19. George Martin
20. Calum Chick
21. Dan Robson
22. Jacob Umaga
23. Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 9 caps)

I like that side. Marchant is definitely better at 13 but is also more than decent on the wing. I'd prefer to see Lawrence at 12 with Marchant at 13 and Radwan (or Lynagh) on the wing, but I'd definitely like to see Kelly so it's a bit of a trade-off.

 

[BPM]

Fair play to him. I'm starting to like the look of his mate Lynagh though.

Marchant has also caught the eye recently.

Marchant had a bit of a dip in form when he came back from NZ, but has otherwise been consistently excellent for Quins.

He really is an excellent player with no real weaknesses.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Northmore needs to be in with a shout too imo, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see Kenningham in there somewhere too, even just as an apprentice

Kenningham in the squad according to "inside info" on Quins forum.

Take with a lunch of salt obvs


Same chap saying Huw Jones is coming our way

When are we expecting the announcement?

 

[BPM]

No idea. I thought lunchtime but clearly not.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Kenningham in the squad according to "inside info" on Quins forum.

Take with a lunch of salt obvs


Same chap saying Huw Jones is coming our way

When are we expecting the announcement?

Vindicated