South Africa VS Wales

[Steve-o]

as ive kept saying i think its going to be a really huge high intensity game

cos i can assure you south africans that this welsh side has NEVER been this aggressive or as intense. and as we already kno the saffas are always intense, so gunna be a fire meets fire game definatly
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Yeah, I'm interested to see this size record breaking back row at work. I think that's why PdV included Rossouw instead of Kankowski (the form no.8 of the S14).
Should be quiet a sight seeing Wales trying to out grind the grind kings. They could get a bit caught up in that and underestimate the rocket shoes on the wings. If Chavhanga gets some space, no one chases him.

 

[Sir Speedy]

If the Saffa's play like NZ did earlier today, I have a feeling we will win. Although, Cooper will need to avoid the SA backrow or he'll become a liability. And lets hope Jamei Roberts holds his own at fullback; it'd be great to see him have a good game (maybe run over Habana or Chavanga once or twice ).

 

[Incredible Schalk]

If the Saffa's play like NZ did earlier today, I have a feeling we will win. Although, Cooper will need to avoid the SA backrow or he'll become a liability. And lets hope Jamei Roberts holds his own at fullback; it'd be great to see him have a good game (maybe run over Habana or Chavanga once or twice ).
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There not playing in a monsoon though the hard fast pitches are a completely different proposition.

 

[Steve-o]

http://blogofbam.wordpress.com/2008/06/06/...-vs-wales-2008/

For the Welsh who don't know some of the Saffa players, and it's quite funny to.

 

[Sir Speedy]

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If the Saffa's play like NZ did earlier today, I have a feeling we will win. Although, Cooper will need to avoid the SA backrow or he'll become a liability. And lets hope Jamei Roberts holds his own at fullback; it'd be great to see him have a good game (maybe run over Habana or Chavanga once or twice ).
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There not playing in a monsoon though the hard fast pitches are a completely different proposition.
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What I mean is, if South Africa have a start-of-season nightmare match like NZ apparantly had, apart from the 2nd half, then I think we'll win. If this becomes a forwards vs forwards pummelling-each-other-until-their-cheek-bone-sticks-out-of-their-face game, then I think we'll lose, but I still don't think we'll lose (we won't though ) by more than 8 points.

 

[Incredible Schalk]

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If the Saffa's play like NZ did earlier today, I have a feeling we will win. Although, Cooper will need to avoid the SA backrow or he'll become a liability. And lets hope Jamei Roberts holds his own at fullback; it'd be great to see him have a good game (maybe run over Habana or Chavanga once or twice ).
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There not playing in a monsoon though the hard fast pitches are a completely different proposition.
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What I mean is, if South Africa have a start-of-season nightmare match like NZ apparantly had, apart from the 2nd half, then I think we'll win. If this becomes a forwards vs forwards pummelling-each-other-until-their-cheek-bone-sticks-out-of-their-face game, then I think we'll lose, but I still don't think we'll lose (we won't though ) by more than 8 points.
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You didnt even watch it? well how do you know NZ played badly then, personally i thought it was an heroic effort by Ireland. Wales would have done no better imo, the All Black forwards are the strongest in the business.

 

[Sir Speedy]

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If the Saffa's play like NZ did earlier today, I have a feeling we will win. Although, Cooper will need to avoid the SA backrow or he'll become a liability. And lets hope Jamei Roberts holds his own at fullback; it'd be great to see him have a good game (maybe run over Habana or Chavanga once or twice ).
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There not playing in a monsoon though the hard fast pitches are a completely different proposition.
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What I mean is, if South Africa have a start-of-season nightmare match like NZ apparantly had, apart from the 2nd half, then I think we'll win. If this becomes a forwards vs forwards pummelling-each-other-until-their-cheek-bone-sticks-out-of-their-face game, then I think we'll lose, but I still don't think we'll lose (we won't though ) by more than 8 points.
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You didnt even watch it? well how do you know NZ played badly then, personally i thought it was an heroic effort by Ireland. Wales would have done no better imo, the All Black forwards are the strongest in the business.
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So you're telling me that New Zealand played well? Like they've done for the past 5 years? Or are you saying that Ireland played so well that they pushed NZ close enough until the very end? The Irish have been optimistic all week. In fact, this was said by many to be their best oppurtunity to put one over NZ, and to be honest, they blew it. I've seen NZ's first try, and O'Driscoll was completely outpaced by the centre that waira-cullen reckons is the slowest in the business (not anymore eh?), and apparantly, Reddan was dreadful. People have been calling for his head now so Stringer should start.
I've been on the 606 boards, and on the other thread, and whereas some Irish fans are happy with the performance, others are completely ****** off. This Irish side isn't a shadow of the one two years ago, but maybe Declan Kidney can change that. But still, you seriously aren't telling me that NZ played their best rugby today are you? If SA play like NZ did today (i.e. not at their best), then I think Wales will win.

 

[Incredible Schalk]

Whatever you say, but making an opinion on someone else's isnt always reliable. We will wait and see, only morons underestimate the All Blacks though, they have been the greatest side in the world for 100 years for a reason. But to compare the All Blacks in the wet and the Boks in the dry hard pitch at Bloemfentein without even watching the match is very stupid.

 

[Sir Speedy]

Stupid. Just like saying, "Wales would have done no better imo." That's a valid statement right there.

 

[esoj]

weather was a huge factor in the ireland v abs game.

I think in the dry SA could still win even if they don't play at their best. the boks have a very good looking backline which I think will cut loose if they can get enough ball. wales will have to be right on their game I think to get a close victory over the boks.

 

[Incredible Schalk]

Stupid. Just like saying, "Wales would have done no better imo." That's a valid statement right there.
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Nor would any other side except the Bokke in my opinion. Are Wales as good in the wet as Ireland? basically the All Blacks are so strong up front they would have splintered Wales through the middle just like Ireland as their packs arent as strong. Anyway...

weather was a huge factor in the ireland v abs game.

I think in the dry SA could still win even if they don't play at their best. the boks have a very good looking backline which I think will cut loose if they can get enough ball. wales will have to be right on their game I think to get a close victory over the boks.
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Indeed, its the type of game where the back could get alot of the ball. In the last 4 visits to SA,Wales have conceded around 45 points a game, i dont think it will be like that again but defenses will be broken alot i feel.

 

[Prestwick]

Now if you want my opinion, I think if the conditions were as bad as people are saying they were earlier for the NZ - Ireland game then I'd say Scotland would be best suited.

Think about it, in that kind of game, with lots of slippery mud to get bogged down in, lots of time to clear and kick long with the wind to your back and not worry about accuracy...that game it simply custom made for the Scotland pack and Dan Parks!

 

[nam97]

This game will be an absolute bath. SA will walk all over a Welsh side which will get dominated in every single department imaginable.

 

[Prestwick]

Apparently Shaun Edwards is running Wales through the pre-match drills screaming:

"THEY (South Africa) DON'T RATE US! THEY (South Africa) DON'T RESPECT US!"[/b]

Repeatedly...

 

[Sir Speedy]

6 - 3 in fifteen minutes to SA.

 

[Sir Speedy]

This game will be an absolute bath. SA will walk all over a Welsh side which will get dominated in every single department imaginable.
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We've hammered their scrum twice now. ^.^

 

[Thingimubob]

ach for fek sake, have we lost all our dicipline? and we're mucking up all the basics, seriously have to settle down and just play.

 

[Sir Speedy]

ach for fek sake, have we lost all our dicipline? and we're mucking up all the basics, seriously have to settle down and just play.
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And to top it off, now our defence has gone to pot. <_< If we're not within ten points by the break then I don't see us coming back.

 

[Thingimubob]

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ach for fek sake, have we lost all our dicipline? and we're mucking up all the basics, seriously have to settle down and just play.
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And to top it off, now our defence has gone to pot. <_< If we're not within ten points by the break then I don't see us coming back. [/b][/quote]

...yup, Shaun Edwards should be sharpening his axe as we speak...

 

[candybum]

Over red rover? lol