[Six Nations 2018] Round 2: England vs Wales (10/02/2018)

[Maverick1987]

WHATEVER YOU DO ! DONT MENTION THE WORDS WORLD CLASS !

 

[mustardcharlie]

This one is going to be close. As a devout England fan since the days of .......let's just say since many of you were born, I think this is going to be close. Somehow there are doubts lurking. On a bright spring day, one would tend to think England. Something tells me that this is going to be a day for the cudgel rather than the rapier though. England's biggest problem is retaining possession and discipline. It is ******* it down in London at the moment. Penalties and secure handling will win this game. England 16, Wales 10?

 

[truthteller]

At an absolute minimum england have 3 world class players which everyone would agree on - Itoje, Farrell, and Billy Vunipola. But I'd also say that launchbury is world class, and although they both have room to improve, watson and daly are extremely close. Judging by last six nations and the lions tour, Lawes is too, but not as a 6. Mako Vunipola is one hell of a player and his scrummaging is better these days. And this is a fairly conservative estimate of our world class players.

i think itoje and watson are, billy is but hes out, farrell is close to it though he needs to improve his running game, the rest are quality not yet world class

 

[truthteller]

At an absolute minimum england have 3 world class players which everyone would agree on - Itoje, Farrell, and Billy Vunipola. But I'd also say that launchbury is world class, and although they both have room to improve, watson and daly are extremely close. Judging by last six nations and the lions tour, Lawes is too, but not as a 6. Mako Vunipola is one hell of a player and his scrummaging is better these days. And this is a fairly conservative estimate of our world class players.

i think itoje and watson are, billy is but hes out, farrell is close to it though he needs to improve his running game, the rest are quality not yet world class

 

[truthteller]

the welsh have warburton faletau north jon davies awj all world class but most injured. gareth davies is close as is lions number 1 ken owens

 

[TommiG88]

the welsh have warburton faletau north jon davies awj all world class but most injured. gareth davies is close as is lions number 1 ken owens

Funny, I thought that was Jamie George

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

This one is going to be close. As a devout England fan since the days of .......let's just say since many of you were born, I think this is going to be close. Somehow there are doubts lurking. On a bright spring day, one would tend to think England. Something tells me that this is going to be a day for the cudgel rather than the rapier though. England's biggest problem is retaining possession and discipline. It is ******* it down in London at the moment. Penalties and secure handling will win this game. England 16, Wales 10?

I'd settle for a repeat of the first match I saw at HQ. 9-8 to Eng in the 1980 GS. 3 pens including the injury time winner to 2 tries and a sent off Welshman. Bit lively throughout, these days it would have ended 9 a side.

Ticket was £5. Getting all misty eyed thinking about it!

 

[Every Time Ref]

First game I saw at Twickers was 54-3 to England, I'd take that. It was against Romania to be fair.

Not sure what wet weather does to either side's chances really. It certainly didn't help us in Dublin last year but in general our style probably suits it. Old Wales would have thrived, new Wales not so much maybe

 

[The5thOfficial]

I'd settle for a repeat of the first match I saw at HQ. 9-8 to Eng in the 1980 GS. 3 pens including the injury time winner to 2 tries and a sent off Welshman. Bit lively throughout, these days it would have ended 9 a side.

Ticket was £5. Getting all misty eyed thinking about it!

Is that the one where Stringer got sent off for Wales. if it was i was there!

 

[The5thOfficial]

Jones wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't try to put the pressure on a fly half making his second competitive start for Wales.... at Tickers against the second best team in the world... expecting more to come.

Jones irritates the life out of me as soon as he opens his mouth. Doesn't matter what he says!

 

[Maverick1987]

He has, and against Italy he actually added some IC play. If he keeps that up, I'll consider him. But ahead of SBW, or Fofana? Keep it up, and he reaches the likes of Henshaw in the second tier.

Fofana ?!? Have I gone back in time somewhere along the line !

the welsh have warburton faletau north jon davies awj all world class but most injured. gareth davies is close as is lions number 1 ken owens

North isn't world class imo . Hasn't been for a while . Also if you aren't going to label AWJ world class then all 3 of our locks are equal to him . Warburton isn't for me either . He's too inconsistent these days

For me Wales have 3 world class players (Faletau, AWJ and Jon Davies) and another 3 or 4 who are capable of world class performances from time to time

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Fofana ?!? Have I gone back in time somewhere along the line !


North isn't world class imo . Hasn't been for a while . Also if you aren't going to label AWJ world class then all 3 of our locks are equal to him . Warburton isn't for me either . He's too inconsistent these days

For me Wales have 3 world class players (Faletau, AWJ and Jon Davies) and another 3 or 4 who are capable of world class performances from time to time

4*

 

[ncurd]

I would say AWJ is past it now (not his fault hes aged) and England's top three locks are beyond him now. Launchburry not on the Lions tour was a massive snub.

 

[Maverick1987]

I would say AWJ is past it now (not his fault hes aged) and England's top three locks are beyond him now. Launchburry not on the Lions tour was a massive snub.

I was being nice

 

[TommiG88]

I think my first game at twickenham was England Australia in 2013. Think we won 21-9.

Edit: I've also never seen England lose.

 

[JJFlash]

Is that the one where Stringer got sent off for Wales. if it was i was there!

Was Paul Ringer known as "Stringer"?

 

[JJFlash]

England will never be considered "world class" unless they win the World Cup ........ again.
As far as English and Welsh players are concerned, which of them would currently be selected on merit for the All Blacks?
For Wales, Jonathan Davies would come closest. For England, maybe Watson. I don't think Billy V fits the bill for an All Black 8 for whom Kieran Read is peerless.
Would Itoje or Launchbury replace Whitelock and Retallick? No!

 

[TommiG88]

Looking at the weather, England V Wales will be the only wet game. Just like Twickenham to bring us the rain.

 

[Groundhog]

Johnny Sexton is the only world class player in the world, if you disagree with me you're just proving you're a chode.

Aha. Mate..... Tadhg Beirne plays for the Scarlets. He's Ireland's only World Class player. Sexton would be lucky to make the bench for the Scarlets. Doesn't have the handling ability or vision.

 

[Mrs. Peter Quinn]

England will never be considered "world class" unless they win the World Cup ........ again.
As far as English and Welsh players are concerned, which of them would currently be selected on merit for the All Blacks?
For Wales, Jonathan Davies would come closest. For England, maybe Watson. I don't think Billy V fits the bill for an All Black 8 for whom Kieran Read is peerless.
Would Itoje or Launchbury replace Whitelock and Retallick? No!

Sorry but that's the worst definition of world class I think I've ever heard. You're only world class if you can get into the all black starting 15, I.e there can only be one world class player position? What?? And if you wouldn't get into the all-blacks on merit because they choose a different type of player, i.e Reid over Vunipola, then you're not world class? Absolutely senseless!