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Yeah outside of SA, Ireland, France, NZ who is 5th?
Scotland, Aus and Argentina all kinda the same level who have shown improvements and progress


Hopefully by next RWC we have 8 genuine ***le contenders which I think is possible.
 
Yeah outside of SA, Ireland, France, NZ who is 5th?
Scotland, Aus and Argentina all kinda the same level who have shown improvements and progress


Hopefully by next RWC we have 8 genuine ***le contenders which I think is possible.
I think Scotland and Argentina are clearly ahead of Australia, but Australia have had a good Autumn and shown they are clearly on an upward trajectory overall.
 
I suppose. However, Argentina can and do beat top 4 sides pretty much on an annual basis. Scotland never do. Until that starts happening, they're still no better than their ranking suggests.
 
I suppose. However, Argentina can and do beat top 4 sides pretty much on an annual basis. Scotland never do. Until that starts happening, they're still no better than their ranking suggests.
So... about 5th-6th then
 
Perhaps I'm being pedantic but they're solidly 6th for me. Argentina deservedly 5th and showing more potential of toppling top 4 sides.

I think putting Australia where they are is generous. Yes, they beat England but that's it really. One swallow apparently makes a summer after all.
 
Yeah outside of SA, Ireland, France, NZ who is 5th?
Scotland, Aus and Argentina all kinda the same level who have shown improvements and progress


Hopefully by next RWC we have 8 genuine ***le contenders which I think is possible.
It was previously England and I think they will get there again. They have the talent to be comfortably better than Aus, Scroteland and Argentina without quite matching it with the big boys.
 
Argentina are solidly 5th for me. Had they played England and Scotland on this tour I believe they would have won both games. I think SA are no1 by a fair bit, then it's Ireland, NZ and France very close together. Despite losing to them this Autumn I think if we played Australia 10 times we'd win 7 or 8 of them. Scotland 6th is about right I think. From an England point of view being 7th in the World is just abject really. We should be pushing the top 4 at a minimum. It's not good enough. If we don't finish in the top 2 in the 6N then Borthwick should be surplus to requirements.
 
I think the rankings are nearly bang on being less interested in position and more based on points (+/- 1 point means nothing). France a bit undervalued after Dfter Dupont's soujourn with 7s and expect them to stay like that for awhile considering they'll be understrength in NZ.
 

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