Scotland v Australia 24/11/2024 - (13.40)

[AlRums]

Disappointed with Scotland conceding a try

 

[AngloScotsHybrid]

Tate Mcdermott should start every game for Australia. He is clearly their best scrum half.

 

[AlRums]

Never doubted Scotland

 

[IT157]

Well done Scotland.

Maybe the Australia are back and Schmidt is a genius was a little premature.

All I read in England threads is look how crap Borthwick is, and look how great Schmidt it!

 

[OllyM97]

Scotland played well there and deserved the win. Australia though…. just so woefully poor. Maybe the two previous games on this tour were more down to how poor the opposition were.

 

[Derpus]

Nah i called it before the game. Only one training session during the week, multiple injuries and late scratchings and our key players all gassed from the kick off. Bell was playing at about 10%. Then Suallii going off with no real sub.

I know its not my line but im not that fussed. 2/4 is pretty good considering where these guys are at.

Fair play Scroteland. Looked fit, fresh and clinical. Still filthy dogs for stealing other countries players but.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Well done Scotland.

Maybe the Australia are back and Schmidt is a genius was a little premature.

All I read in England threads is look how crap Borthwick is, and look how great Schmidt it!

Tough tour and they looked gassed. Australia are definitely on the up though, just tricky to knock off top 6 teams away.

They've gone from 10th to 8th in the rankings with an outside opportunity to hop up to 6th. Positive tour I'd say.

 

[AlRums]

Tough tour and they looked gassed. Australia are definitely on the up though, just tricky to knock off top 6 teams away.

They've gone from 10th to 8th in the rankings with an outside opportunity to hop up to 6th. Positive tour I'd say.

They beat England.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

They beat England.

I'm aware

 

[AlRums]

Nah i called it before the game. Only one training session during the week, multiple injuries and late scratchings and our key players all gassed from the kick off. Bell was playing at about 10%. Then Suallii going off with no real sub.

I know its not my line but im not that fussed. 2/4 is pretty good considering where these guys are at.

Fair play Scroteland. Looked fit, fresh and clinical. Still filthy dogs for stealing other countries players but.

Scotland and Australia had the same time and opportunity to train.

 

[Grizwald]

I only watched the first half live. Australia can hopefully regroup and put in a performance against Ireland next week. I think stylistically it's a bad match up for the Aussies though.

Hopefully the Aussies return down under with a bit more buzz around the Lion's tour in both hemispheres.

Congratulations to Scotland. There's a bit of Wales like doom predicted in their future when this current crop of players ages there's not a lot to come allegedly. The U20's were relegated to the second tier and getting project players on residency grounds is quite difficult. I think there'll still be a decent stream of qualified players from the prem though.

 

[BPM]

Well done Scotland.

Maybe the Australia are back and Schmidt is a genius was a little premature.

All I read in England threads is look how crap Borthwick is, and look how great Schmidt it!

I posted pretty much exactly this a couple of days ago and said Scotland would be the acid test. Harsh on England to say so but the truth is, Australia lost to the first good team they played.

I do think Schmidt has had a more positive impact on Australia in a shorter space of time though. And that's with more challenges than Borthwick has to contend with.

 

[Booboobang]

Congratulations to Scotland. There's a bit of Wales like doom predicted in their future when this current crop of players ages there's not a lot to come allegedly. The U20's were relegated to the second tier and getting project players on residency grounds is quite difficult. I think there'll still be a decent stream of qualified players from the prem though.

I mean, this is very premature... suceeded a lot at unders? Good god no. But look at glasgows team and you will see they are bringing talent through at a reasnonable rate. Alex Samuel and Max Williamson two massive units of locks that look exceptional for example. Once they get into club rugby and international level their development is fine. Freddy douglas, ben muncaster in the back row etc... They are doing a pretty decent job of bridging the gap with weak summer tours and tier 2 fixtures etc...

Need to replace sean everitt to improve development on their other side but glasgow do a great job of development, with plenty of scot born players coming through currently despite their dire under 20's.

 

[Booboobang]

Well done Scotland.

Maybe the Australia are back and Schmidt is a genius was a little premature.

All I read in England threads is look how crap Borthwick is, and look how great Schmidt it!

This doesnt prove anything besides that?

Borthwick under 50% on the year, lost to tier 2's in his first year and showing no progress only regression on a promising defense. Schmidt has developed a clear identity and is simply running up against a shallow player pool and a good team coming of a weeks break playing against portugal. A loss to scotland doesnt prove brothwick is any less shite or that schmidt has improved australia massively in under a year.

 

[Derpus]

Scotland and Australia had the same time and opportunity to train.

Apparently not. There some issue with facilities.

 

[Derpus]

I only watched the first half live. Australia can hopefully regroup and put in a performance against Ireland next week. I think stylistically it's a bad match up for the Aussies though.

Hopefully the Aussies return down under with a bit more buzz around the Lion's tour in both hemispheres.

Congratulations to Scotland. There's a bit of Wales like doom predicted in their future when this current crop of players ages there's not a lot to come allegedly. The U20's were relegated to the second tier and getting project players on residency grounds is quite difficult. I think there'll still be a decent stream of qualified players from the prem though.

Oh that's fine - they don't develop their own players.

 

[Derpus]

One thing I noticed a lot in this game and seems to be creeping into rugby a lot recently is the tackler rolling into the 9 channel rather than to the side. Subtle but really kills the flow of a game. (not saying it benefited either side more or anything)

 

[Derpus]

Sorry last thing from me - I honestly think England will beat Scotland in the 6N. Heard it here first.

 

[BPM]

This doesnt prove anything besides that?

Borthwick under 50% on the year, lost to tier 2's in his first year and showing no progress only regression on a promising defense. Schmidt has developed a clear identity and is simply running up against a shallow player pool and a good team coming of a weeks break playing against portugal. A loss to scotland doesnt prove brothwick is any less shite or that schmidt has improved australia massively in under a year.

I don't think @IT157 was questioning Schmidt's impact - more asking whether the 'Australia are back!' narrative is a little premature. Schmidt's sides have a clear identity because he knows exactly what he wants his sides to do and knows how to get his structures and ideas across. That is the simple difference between a vastly experienced coach and a relative greenhorn.

By the same token, no-one should be putting Scotland in a top 5 debate because they've beaten Australia.

 

[Which Tyler]

By the same token, no-one should be putting Scotland in a top 5 debate because they've beaten Australia.

[pedant]I think a debate for Scotland in the top 5 is fair, they're currently in 6th place after all, and could potentially overtake Argentina without even doing anything spectacular in the 6N. Top 4 would be silly[/pedant]