[RWC2023 SF2] England vs South Africa (21/10/2023)

[TRF_Olyy]

@TRF_Olyy. Look what Marler did to your boy.

He's gone soft since he left us,
Mancunian Faf would've launched Marler into the stands

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Interesting thread narrowing down the ruck in which the alleged words were exchanged

 

[Kiwiwomble]

I understand all that, but if you are the weaker scrum what can you do to be on the right side of the ref?

...and this is why scrum penalties are fundamentally ******, the vast majority of them IMO are due to one team just not being strong enough which to me is not something we should be penalised teams for. The scrum is a competition for the ball...the dominant scrum gets the ball...its not ******* rocket surgery

There's another factor equally important, what did BOK do? did he follow the correct procedures.

He may have spoken at half time (I don't know what the protocol if for refs to speak to teams at half time).

I ask this because he appears to have done sweet **** all.

im not sure how much else he could have done during the game though, if he'd heard it himself sure....but i dont think we want refs penalising teams just because someone says they heard something and i dont think anyone want a RWC semi final held up whilst they combe through footage to see if they can hear anything, siting after the game seems the best option

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

 

[Zac_ETNZ]

No it wouldn't, it would encourage defending teams to stop their opponents by any means at all. It would become reasonable to risk the opposition kicking two points rather than concede seven.

They do that now conceding 3 points!! They can use the yellow card against "cynical "interference" as a strong deterrence against deliberate fouls to prevent tries.

And while they're at it, they should outlaw deliberately slowing down games with fake injury breaks, drinks breaks, abuse of the HIA protocols, which SA have perfected to an art form! I hope the All Blacks coach and captain alert Barnes to this insidious tactic which spoils the spectacle of a fair game.

 

[IT157]

They do that now conceding 3 points!! They can use the yellow card against "cynical "interference" as a strong deterrence against deliberate fouls to prevent tries.

And while they're at it, they should outlaw deliberately slowing down games with fake injury breaks, drinks breaks, abuse of the HIA protocols, which SA have perfected to an art form! I hope the All Blacks coach and captain alert Barnes to this insidious tactic which spoils the spectacle of a fair game.

Lol at an All Blacks fan saying this.

 

[Zac_ETNZ]

Lol at an All Blacks fan saying this.

We might get penalised and/or yellow-carded, but we score tries as well to make up for them.

 

[Kiwiwomble]

Lol at an All Blacks fan saying this.

you do seem to have a real chip on your shoulder when it comes to the ABs, bought into the idea they are only successful because they cheat all the time i guess?

 

[IT157]

you do seem to have a real chip on your shoulder when it comes to the ABs, bought into the idea they are only successful because they cheat all the time i guess?

No. They are historically the best team. Can't deny that. Very talented. The most talented rugby nation.

 

[Kiwiwomble]

No. They are historically the best team. Can't deny that. Very talented. The most talented rugby nation.

why all the digs then? a noticeable number about getting away with stuff, refs favouring them or like the one about about a AB fan talking about a "fair game" is laughable...too the point you despise them

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

South African rugby twitter seems to be quickly becoming an absolute cesspit from what I've seen of it. Genuine calls to prosecute Tom Curry for defamation and calling him a racist for referring it to the ref.

Genuinely some of the worst fans in the business at times. I know it's only a minority of SA rugby fans, but that minority are awful.

Personal highlight I've seen is "if Bongi said it, then the real offender is Curry as he must have done something to make him say it as he is not important enough to insult unprovoked".


Mental

 

[Scotty]

Faf vs Marler

 

[West Country Wail]

Why is that not a penalty? I'm not salty just confused. Is it because Marler didn't move?

 

[Scotty]

Why is that not a penalty? I'm not salty just confused. Is it because Marler didn't move?

Pen to who? Faf went for the tackle and pulled out making minimal contact, very harsh pen.

Marler grabbed his shirt and thats it, very harsh pen.

So naa no foul play in that.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Why is that not a penalty? I'm not salty just confused. Is it because Marler didn't move?

Basically tbh, if marler goes floppy there and hits the deck that's a pen

 

[Yulia]

Yes, I've heard "wit" as well. Not "white",it sounds different.. now this is funny, if Tom Curry misheard it

 

[Stade Rochelais]

He's gone soft since he left us,
Mancunian Faf would've launched Marler into the stands

According to the regulations, referee Ben o'Keeffe should have called an anti-play foul against FAF de Klerk.

What an irony, this referee definitely has vision problems and yet he is an ophthalmologist .

 

[Wasps92]

South African rugby twitter seems to be quickly becoming an absolute cesspit from what I've seen of it. Genuine calls to prosecute Tom Curry for defamation and calling him a racist for referring it to the ref.

Genuinely some of the worst fans in the business at times. I know it's only a minority of SA rugby fans, but that minority are awful.

Personal highlight I've seen is "if Bongi said it, then the real offender is Curry as he must have done something to make him say it as he is not important enough to insult unprovoked".


Mental

Hope the All Blacks annihilate them.

 

[West Country Wail]

Basically tbh, if marler goes floppy there and hits the deck that's a pen

Ah well, we're getting more out of it from him standing tall. Clipping up that and Daly smoking big Duane should be good to capture a few new minds into the game.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Glad to hear the actual words, context and the tone back up my thoughts.

I will give Curry the benefit of the doubt as well that he was sincere in his assumption.

Hope that the "official investigation" also gets wrapped up soon. It's just sad the trial by media the allegations caused and there will always be people who won't accept the fault lay with Currys ears. .