[RWC2023] England vs Argentina (09/09/2023)

[Summer Rose]

I don't know much about rugby so I don't know what to think of that game. I enjoyed the drop goals though. They're always fun.

 

[Astrodragon]

That's 80 minutes of my life I won't get back...

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

Is 6 and below in the world rankings simply just a competition for who can **** the bed more?

I still can't believe the top 5 in the world are all on the same side of the schedule

 

[McTallshort]

That's 80 minutes of my life I won't get back...

Your loss

 

[Umaga's Witness]

Englands tactics were exemplary. Complaining about the attack when what they were doing was so effect, is ridiculous. To be clear though, I'm sure a lot of you are just noting there was no attack, and therefore no evidence that they can attack if they needed to in a different situation.

 

[dullonien]

For me, Rugby is about running and scoring tries. If you enjoyed this then good for you. For me it was worse than dire.

Didn't say I hugely enjoyed it. I prefer to see running rugby and try's, but if that all rugby was, it'd be boring as hell! There's a reason a don't enjoy 7's.

 

[SG59_]

They did what they needed under the circumstances and got a well deserved win. I'm not sure how well that will work against a tougher opponent, but that's for another day.

Argentina made a mess of this. Took far too long to get into the game and failed to capitalise on England's weaknesses. It could have cost them a chance at progressing too.

 

[Amiga500]

That's 80 minutes of my life I won't get back...

Ah no.

Always good to watch a team dig something out against the odds.

Doesn't matter if it isn't on the face of it, pretty, it's still admirable.

 

[McTallshort]

For me, Rugby is about running and scoring tries. If you enjoyed this then good for you. For me it was worse than dire.

What are you supposed to do with 14 men for 78 minutes you

 

[big ginger 8]

******* England

 

[BPM]

What are you supposed to do with 14 men for 78 minutes you

Lose but look going doing so I assume …

 

[Amiga500]

Suppose must raise the question - was that intensity an emotional performance or can they recreate it?

 

[BPM]

I hope so. Ride the wave man …

 

[johnh1]

Maybe 7's is more your thing?

If you enjoy seeing endless kicks at goal then good for you. I find it tedious.

 

[ThebigARena]

Peeps complaining about lack of tries blame the argies for that . Going down to 14 so early the mindset is to win by any means and nobody on here would argue if their country won by those means too be real here

 

[Horacito]

That was disgusting lol
from the argie pov I do think this is super interesting
best players ever in terms of experience, professionalism and general conditioning, some of them even played in NZ (rugby mecca), all of them pros
this is the end of the cycle 2015-25: super rugby experience, 3 WC's for Matera and already failed miserably in '19
they already matched the best result in our history (almost) in their first WC, did they peaked early?
I mean, are they going to waste it all away? world class HC, tested specialist (contepomi, kidwell), and yet they can't concentrate enough to perform.
Why is being an argentinean rugby fun this hard? anyway, at least tomorrow finn russell's on so i'll be able to see some rugby hahahahaha

 

[Crash Hamster]

Suppose must raise the question - was that intensity an emotional performance or can they recreate it?

Like the New Zealand game 4 years ago, that was our final.

(I hope I'm joking...)

 

[McTallshort]

Ah no.

Always good to watch a team dig something out against the odds.

Doesn't matter if it isn't on the face of it, pretty, it's still admirable.

Oh god I'm agreeing with you!

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

What the actual f***?! How can anyone complain about Englands lack of attack. They played with 14 men for 77mins. They played with their heads.

Some of you need to give your heads a wobble. It's a World Cup, not an autumn international

I don't know if that is aimed at me. I am not complaining about a lack of attack in this game (although they did butcher an overlap in their usual style). I am saying that concluding they will suddenly be able to pass coherently and break defensive formations as a result of a resilient defensive display against a lobotomised opponent is not a conclusion I would make. I also think England have no chance against a top 5 opponent if the tactic is 8 man rugby and drop goals (which was a necessity in this match).

I would argue it takes more than confidence to be a coherent attacking force. It takes decent coaching and a basic level of player ability. I saw nothing to suggest England will wake up with those qualities later on in this tournament. I guess of they put 30+ on Samoa and Japan that would be the beginnings of the signs I am horrifically wrong.

With this draw England (and Argentina) can offer almost nothing in attack and still have a decent chance of a semifinal. I genuinely hope someone steps up in that half of the draw but personally I saw no evidence of that today.

 

[johnh1]

What are you supposed to do with 14 men for 78 minutes you

Errr.......run with ball rather than keep kicking it. Duh