It's not about the world adjusting to us it's about playing the game the way it was ment to be. At the end of the day William Webb Ellis picked up a soccer ball and RAN with it. At no point did he drop it on the ground before kicking it over the goal.
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RWC: Fiji - Namibia (10-09-2011, 15:30)
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It's not about the world adjusting to us it's about playing the game the way it was ment to be. At the end of the day William Webb Ellis picked up a soccer ball and RAN with it. At no point did he drop it on the ground before kicking it over the goal.
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Your wrong about the history of the game, at the founding of rugby tries were worth nothing and only earned you a shot at goal, only later did tries become worth points, and it took a long time before they were worth a lot more than penalties and drop goals, and the goal from mark existed at one point, but was abolished some time ago when the mark rules were changed.
oook. All I said is that William Web Ellis picked up the ball and ran with it and didn't hit a droppie... far as I know this is fact. End of the day drop goals are boring, those who like them usually support teams that can't score tries 
They don't require skill from anyone but the first five which I guess is why lots of teams hit them. Takes teams to score most tries, individuals hit drop goals. They're just an easy out and a great way of racking points with little effort.
They don't require skill from anyone but the first five which I guess is why lots of teams hit them. Takes teams to score most tries, individuals hit drop goals. They're just an easy out and a great way of racking points with little effort.
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oook. All I said is that William Web Ellis picked up the ball and ran with it and didn't hit a droppie... far as I know this is fact. End of the day drop goals are boring, those who like them usually support teams that can't score tries
That's probably a fair point to a degree, my country dosen't hit a lot of them(Ander Monro occasionally employs them) but several other teams I follow do. Perhaps one reaches a comfort level with the tactics their favourite teams use, or supports teams that reflect the style of play they appreciate.
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The way it was meant to be, according to who? You?
At the end of the day, William Webb Ellis still had to kick the ball through a pair of posts to score a goal, because tries didn't exist back then.
yeah because back then it was called football (or soccer), who cares what webb ellis did the rules and the game has completely changed since the 1800's and has continued to change to make the game better, at least imo making drop goals 1 or at least 2 points will discourage them and make the game more entertaining to play and watch.
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Thats why I said in an earlier post that Samoa play close to there strongest line up. Need to try and get a good win first game and rack up as many points as possible, hopefully more tries than Fiji because bonus points could count at the end.
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Fiji being advantageous over Namibia, I think Fijians already gained scores for victory
Do not expect looser play from Namibia on the other hand, they will rather tear off their heads than give Fiji easy access to their tryline
Do not expect looser play from Namibia on the other hand, they will rather tear off their heads than give Fiji easy access to their tryline
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Not a good crowd. Why so small?
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These matches are much cheaper than, let's say England v Scotland, so I don't understand either.
How many of you would have gone to this match if you had the chance regardless of the result?
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I am flying to NZ in 10 days and have tickets to Namibia vs Wales. Any game I can get to I will! I´m going to three in as many days, all in different cities - going to have to rent a car. Argentina vs Scotland on the Sunday, Namibia vs Wales on the Monday and USA vs Italy on the Tuesday. Then to Dunedin for Italy vs Ireland. Maybe a game in between but NZ is tough because of the islands. For locals... if they don´t go now they never will. There is no chance the Cup will return to New Zealand in the next 50 years if ever.
Hopefully I´ll be on the tv. I´ll have a Brazilian flag and be wearing the Brazilian rugby uniform.
The crying that went on in begging to host the tournament has seen the wrong opening match and a poor crowd for Fiji vs Namibia. I won´t forget 56,000 at Marseilles for Argentina vs Namibia.
That said it was great to see the Romania vs Scotland crowd. Maybe Rotorua is not a good place for matches?
No Super rugby team there or Air NZ Cup side either. I was there once in my life, 10 years ago. Nice town.
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That's great, I'll be sure to keep an eye out for you. My wife's friend is going to New Zealand this Monday for 30 days with her husband. They invited us to come along, but unfortunately we can't afford to go on account of saving to go to France in February for a wedding.
Had we been able to go, I would have attended a few matches, at least one French match and the rest whatever is cheaper.
They told us recently that they purchased tickets to the Scotland v Argentina match, so I'll have to keep an eye out for them as well. It will be their first time ever watching a rugby match. lol
If I was living in New Zealand I would have been saving up for years for this world cup to go to as many matches as I could.
It was a full crowd, just played in a small stadium. Rotorua is the home of the Bay of Plenty team
watching the reply again i think i was a bit harsh on Fiji
i guess i just wanted Fiji to thrash them and it wasn't happening for most of the game. Fiji did some good things and its obvious Fiji will be much better with their strongest line up. Qera, Nalaga, Goneva, Bai all played really well, Nalaga didn't get the try scoring opportunities like Goneva did but he worked really hard on the field, though he did miss a few tackles. Qera made a huge impact when he came on making a break straight away nearly setting up another try, every time he got the ball he broke through tackles and made big tackles of his own. Talei was good but gave away a few penalties and forced offloads that didn't go to hand. I was really surprised with how well Luveniyali played, though Bai did play at first five for a lot of the game and looked better setting up plays, but him and Luveniyali worked well as a combo. Only question is should Fiji play their best players and risk injury against South Africa or rest some of them for Samoa and Walesas for Namibia, their fullback Botha was really impressive, Fiji had a hard time trying to tackle him all game, he ran from his own 5m to nearly setting up a try at the other end, this guy should be playing in the Super 15
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Melhor - Crowd was around 14000- Stadium can fit 20000. Reason why it wasn't sold out is because Rotorua does not have a large pacific Island population like the main cities in New Zealand. Don't think too many locals wold have been over excited about attending these matches whiuch was quite disapointing. only 11000 tickets have been sold for Samoa vs Namibia so far.
Samoa vs Fiji @ eden park - 58000 tickets sold already and should be sold out before the end of next week. Only other games to be seellouts are;
New Zealand vs Tonga
New Zealand vs France
France vs Canada
South Africa vs Samoa
Wales vs Samoa
Samoa vs Fiji @ eden park - 58000 tickets sold already and should be sold out before the end of next week. Only other games to be seellouts are;
New Zealand vs Tonga
New Zealand vs France
France vs Canada
South Africa vs Samoa
Wales vs Samoa
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oook. All I said is that William Web Ellis picked up the ball and ran with it and didn't hit a droppie... far as I know this is fact. End of the day drop goals are boring, those who like them usually support teams that can't score tries
End of the day they're boring for you, not for everyone
and the teams I support don't really score DG's that much and can certainly score tries!Don't agree at all that DG's only need skill from the no.10. Of course the actual striking of the drop goal is down to the skill of the kicker, but - the team has to earn you the position, the forwards have to secure the ball in the right bit of the park and the scrum half has to make sure his pass to the no.10 doesn't put him under pressure. No different from penalties in my mind - the team puts the opposition under pressure so that they give away a penalty within range of the kicker, but the actual striking of the ball towards the posts is done by one player.
One thing that does need to be changed about drop goals is that currently it's no risk at all for people to take a shot to nothing at a DG from a ridiculous distance. Should be the same rules as regular kicks, if you take a shot and miss from lets say 40m plus, you should run the risk of it being a scrum back if the ball goes dead.
Lol your talkin' about after rugby was officially invented. I never said anything about tries or kicking just that some dude ran with a ball which supposedly lead to rugby being invented, I know you all know this. Why are some so against making rugby more of a spectacle that promotes actually using the ball? drop goals have too higher reward when you compare it to penalties and tries. Hell you even get the ball back when you miss, should atleast be a tap restart on the 22m for the other team. Drop goals are obviously a sensitive topic, even had a South African give me a negative rep lol. Some have forgotten that my main gripe with drop goals is that teams will be hitting them this world cup without even testing the defence. Imagine a game of that. SA kick off, NZ retrieve it, drive into the oppositions half and bam drop goal. SA kick off, get the ball back, set a maul, hit the oppostions 40m then bam drop goal. BBOORRRIINNGGGG. These teams are full of professionals who are paid to entertain. No entertainment, no TV deals, no sponsors, no fans, no money, no rugby.
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