Russia and the West

[Vladimir12]

I'll just leave it here.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/16/dennis-grigsby-spoon-carrying-mentally-ill-man-sho/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/27/jessica-hernandez-autopsy_n_6773040.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...y-police-walmart-doubts-cast-witnesss-account

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/investigators-washington-state-police-shot-at-unarmed-man-17-times/

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/m...ll-man-armed-with-broom-family-claims-6552044

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...es-police-after-killing-unarmed-people#page=2

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27675461/aurora-police-still-mum-fatal-officer-involved-shooting

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/25/u...-life-that-mattered.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=3

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...king-to-people-than-watching-eric-harris-die/

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...bolinger-dancing-man-vanessa-miller/71010592/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...22256a-058e-11e5-a428-c984eb077d4e_story.html

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/01/black-americans-killed-by-police-analysis

https://www.rt.com/usa/fullerton-cop-kelly-thomas-killing-902/


I can continue this list, I'm not hard ...

 

[McTallshort]

I'll just leave it here.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/16/dennis-grigsby-spoon-carrying-mentally-ill-man-sho/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/27/jessica-hernandez-autopsy_n_6773040.html

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...y-police-walmart-doubts-cast-witnesss-account

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/investigators-washington-state-police-shot-at-unarmed-man-17-times/

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/m...ll-man-armed-with-broom-family-claims-6552044

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-po...es-police-after-killing-unarmed-people#page=2

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27675461/aurora-police-still-mum-fatal-officer-involved-shooting

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/25/u...-life-that-mattered.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=3

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...king-to-people-than-watching-eric-harris-die/

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...bolinger-dancing-man-vanessa-miller/71010592/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...22256a-058e-11e5-a428-c984eb077d4e_story.html

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/01/black-americans-killed-by-police-analysis

https://www.rt.com/usa/fullerton-cop-kelly-thomas-killing-902/


I can continue this list, I'm not hard ...

Look we all know you hate the USA but most of us don't care because and I will say this just once: WE ARE NOT AMERICAN!!!!!!!! You are arguing with people who don't care what happens in America. Please try and get this into your thick cossack head.

 

[Vladimir12]

Especially for our friend from Romania.

I like to read when I came across the book published in Germany.

Willy Birkemeyer
"Eine Jugend Hinter Stacheldraht. Als 16-Jähriger Flak-Helfer in Sowjetischer Kriegsgefangenschaft"

In Russian of course. It tells about the fate of the German prisoner in the Soviet Union after the Second World War.

There is a 3 chapter called "Czestochowa".

I'm not writing in English, if someone from the Germans translate normally I would be very grateful.

The prisoners went to the East. In the evening, they built the camp and said that all non-Germans to withdraw from the ranks.

Came not all Germans .Willy Birkemeyer thought that the Germans would be shot, but remained standing in the line.

Remained the most persistent.

They left 300-400 of tens of thousands.

Red Army officer came out and announced.

"With the Germans we are fighting, but who you are, we will establish and strictly punish them all."

The Germans took to the barracks, well-fed, received medical treatment.

And all the others slept on the street hungry.

Why I wrote this?

We can make peace with the Americans as reconciled with the Germans, but to you from Eastern Europe we will always include bad ...



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Look we all know you hate the USA but most of us don't care because and I will say this just once: WE ARE NOT AMERICAN!!!!!!!! You are arguing with people who don't care what happens in America. Please try and get this into your thick cossack head.

I argue with the American and his Romanian boyfriend ...

 

[McTallshort]

Especially for our friend from Romania.

I like to read when I came across the book published in Germany.

Willy Birkemeyer
"Eine Jugend Hinter Stacheldraht. Als 16-Jähriger Flak-Helfer in Sowjetischer Kriegsgefangenschaft"

In Russian of course. It tells about the fate of the German prisoner in the Soviet Union after the Second World War.

There is a 3 chapter called "Czestochowa".

I'm not writing in English, if someone from the Germans translate normally I would be very grateful.

The prisoners went to the East. In the evening, they built the camp and said that all non-Germans to withdraw from the ranks.

Came not all Germans .Willy Birkemeyer thought that the Germans would be shot, but remained standing in the line.

Remained the most persistent.

They left 300-400 of tens of thousands.

Red Army officer came out and announced.

"With the Germans we are fighting, but who you are, we will establish and strictly punish them all."

The Germans took to the barracks, well-fed, received medical treatment.

And all the others slept on the street hungry.

Why I wrote this?

We can make peace with the Americans as reconciled with the Germans, but to you from Eastern Europe we will always include bad ...



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I argue with the American and his Romanian boyfriend ...

Only 5% of German POW's returned for Soviet captivity. Which to be fair I can sort of understand. The massacre of polish POW's by Stalin was unforgivable.

 

[Vladimir12]

Only 5% of German POW's returned for Soviet captivity. Which to be fair I can sort of understand. The massacre of polish POW's by Stalin was unforgivable.

It's a lie.

From 3,486,206 people died in captivity 518,520.

Specifically, the Germans out of 2,388,443 died 356,700 .

Soviet prisoners died in Germany almost half.

From the prisoners of the Germans at Stalingrad survived 5%.

Reasons for this are known. Depletion of the Germans, Soviet unwillingness to so many prisoners, the lack of tansporta for transporting people - 30 on the street during the foot of the transition.

It's true.

 

[McTallshort]

It's a lie.

From 3,486,206 people died in captivity 518,520.

Specifically, the Germans out of 2,388,443 died 356,700 .

Soviet prisoners died in Germany almost half.

From the prisoners of the Germans at Stalingrad survived 5%.

Reasons for this are known. Depletion of the Germans, Soviet unwillingness to so many prisoners, the lack of tansporta for transporting people - 30 on the street during the foot of the transition.

It's true.

Why would the Germans lie? They admit how many Soviets they killed. Shame you cannot do the same.

 

[Vladimir12]

Poles Stalin shot. This is probably true.

What do you know about the fallen Soviet soldiers in Polish captivity in 1920?

Up to 80 thousand dead. Stalin did not forgive and forget.

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Why would the Germans lie? They admit how many Soviets they killed. Shame you cannot do the same.

Let us German judge.

German sources give the fate of German prisoners in the USSR.

Comrades! Come on!

 

[ncurd]

Are we seriously defending Jospeh Stalin here? How many Russian's did he kill again?

 

[McTallshort]

Poles Stalin shot. This is probably true.

What do you know about the fallen Soviet soldiers in Polish captivity in 1920?

Up to 80 thousand dead. Stalin did not forgive and forget.

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Let us German judge.

German sources give the fate of German prisoners in the USSR.

Comrades! Come on!

Why would they lie? They have been very open about what they did in the war so why would they make up lies about someone else?

As I said it's not the Germans that bother me it's the 40,000 Polish prisoner's that Stalin butchered that I find unforgivable.

 

[McTallshort]

Poles Stalin shot. This is probably true.

What do you know about the fallen Soviet soldiers in Polish captivity in 1920?

Up to 80 thousand dead. Stalin did not forgive and forget.

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Let us German judge.

German sources give the fate of German prisoners in the USSR.

Comrades! Come on!

You attacked Poland in 1920 yes?

 

[Vladimir12]

Why would they lie? They have been very open about what they did in the war so why would they make up lies about someone else?

As I said it's not the Germans that bother me it's the 40,000 Polish prisoner's that Stalin butchered that I find unforgivable.

Polyakas shot two times less than you called, 22,000 people.

Gorbachev, Yeltsin and Putin apologized to the Poles for Katyn.

It remains to wait for the same from the Poles for 1920.

While they demolished the monument to fallen Soviet soldiers.

I hope that the memorial in Katyn also kicked a Russian land.

 

[McTallshort]

Polyakas shot two times less than you called, 22,000 people.

Gorbachev, Yeltsin and Putin apologized to the Poles for Katyn.

It remains to wait for the same from the Poles for 1920.

While they demolished the monument to fallen Soviet soldiers.

I hope that the memorial in Katyn also kicked a Russian land.

Of course they demolished Soviet monuments, the Soviets occupied them for 50 years.

 

[Vladimir12]

You attacked Poland in 1920 yes?

First, the Poles attacked the territory of the future of Belarus and Ukraine, captured Kiev, then kicked them out in red.

Then he began to attack red and lost near Warsaw.

The Poles are very proud of this victory, they believe that saved Europe from the Bolsheviks, but occurred less than 100,000.

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Of course they demolished Soviet monuments, the Soviets occupied them for 50 years.

We also need to throw away the Polish, it will be fair ...

 

[McTallshort]

First, the Poles attacked the territory of the future of Belarus and Ukraine, captured Kiev, then kicked them out in red.

Then he began to attack red and lost near Warsaw.

The Poles are very proud of this victory, they believe that saved Europe from the Bolsheviks, but occurred less than 100,000.

They did save Europe from the Bolsheviks and in 1939 Stalin made a pact with Hitler and carved Poland up. Then for good measure red army soldiers sat and watched the Warsaw uprising be brutally put down by the SS in 1944. Nice bloke that Stalin.

 

[Vladimir12]

They did save Europe from the Bolsheviks and in 1939 Stalin made a pact with Hitler and carved Poland up. Then for good measure red army soldiers sat and watched the Warsaw uprising be brutally put down by the SS in 1944. Nice bloke that Stalin.

Stalin took the Poles illegally taken in 1920.

But rebellion in Warsaw, leads the Poland government in London, Churchill and asked to support.

 

[McTallshort]

Stalin took the Poles illegally taken in 1920.

But rebellion in Warsaw, leads the Poland government in London, Churchill and asked to support.

And Stalin refused because he didn't want an independent Poland. Correct?

 

[Vladimir12]

And Stalin refused because he didn't want an independent Poland. Correct?

Stalin the eastern part of Germany and Prussia gave Poland after the war!

What he still had to do for them?

Tarantella dance?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

And here lies the problem, Russian education is clearly woefully lacking when it comes to the atrocities committed by their side. It's just like how modern Chinese aren't taught about Tianamen square.

Stalin was a tyrant who massacred millions without thought. He was a megalomaniac and the USSR brought misery to eastern Europe for decades. Want evidence? Compare eastern Europe to western Europe or even better, east Germany to west Germany. Hell even within just Berlin the difference between the 2 sides is still there for all to see.

 

[McTallshort]

Are we seriously defending Jospeh Stalin here? How many Russian's did he kill again?

Mate he does it all the time, in his head all our governments tell lies and false propaganda while the Russians all tell the truth. Blokes a proper brainwashed nut

 

[ncurd]

Mate he does it all the time, in his head all our governments tell lies and false propaganda while the Russians all tell the truth. Blokes a proper brainwashed nut

I know but still...