Next permanant England head coach

[B10]

The deadline for appliations has passed today and it seems the 6 main applicants are:

Lancaster
Mallet
Kirwan
O'Sullivan
Mallinder
Booth

Wayne Smith has ruled himself out saying the job describition was ""waffly and looked like it was for the head of a PR company, rather than a rugby coach"

I have tried to attach a poll but don't know if it will work or not.

Who would you appoint?

I would probably go for Mallet with Lancaster remaining as part of the coaching set up hopefully.

 

[Peat]

Mallet, Lancester, Mallinder - in that order. If Booth, Kirwan or O'Sullivan get it, I won't be overly happy.

I'd have really liked Smith but am so unsurprised by his description.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I still have a £5 bet running that'll net me £800+ if EOS gets it, so that'd soften the blow

From the above list I'd have Mallet as first choice.
Would be a shame to move away from having an English coach, however he's the best choice, and I don't rate Mallinder or Booth.

 

[j'nuh]

Mallinder - not convinced about Lancaster's selections and there has been no evidence of whether Mallet can get a backline running (which is now intrinsically important to England - we've fallen behind many teams in the pack but have an excellent outlook in the backs).

 

[King_D'Arcy]

I still have a £5 bet running that'll net me £800+ if EOS gets it, so that'd soften the blow

From the above list I'd have Mallet as first choice.
Would be a shame to move away from having an English coach, however he's the best choice, and I don't rate Mallinder or Booth.

WHAT? I'm getting on that!

 

[TRF_Olyy]

WHAT? I'm getting on that!

Too late, he's down to 50-1 now
I put it on the day he resigned from USA, which was the day after Johnson went (I think?) so his odds were still sky high as the bookies hadn't clocked it yet




Edit: Just seen on t'internet that Mallinder hasn't applied to be England coach, so that puts an end to that line of speculation!

 

[SoRadical]

Never truely understood the hype around Nick Mallett. Am I in the minority in thinking that Pierre Berbizier accomplished more in two years as Italy coach than Mallett did in four? Sure, Berbizier missed out on the quarter finals back in 2007, but had David Bortolussi landed that penalty at the very end Italy would have gone through. That Italy team circa 2007 looked to me like capable of breaking the top three in the Six Nations in a year or two and were maturing seriously fast. To be honest they looked stronger than any of Mallett's Italian sides. I don't know why people would get excited about him as England coach. I say let John Kirwan have a crack at it.

 

[Seaton]

Never truely understood the hype around Nick Mallett. Am I in the minority in thinking that Pierre Berbizier accomplished more in two years as Italy coach than Mallett did in four? Sure, Berbizier missed out on the quarter finals back in 2007, but had David Bortolussi landed that penalty at the very end Italy would have gone through. That Italy team circa 2007 looked to me like capable of breaking the top three in the Six Nations in a year or two and were maturing seriously fast. To be honest they looked stronger than any of Mallett's Italian sides. I don't know why people would get excited about him as England coach. I say let John Kirwan have a crack at it.

It's because of his record with South Africa in my mind.

Done little since.

 

[samhall]

Would be a shame in some ways to see Lancaster go. He looks like he has a lot to offer and seems to have a definite image of England going forward. It would be nice if Mallet came in and Lancaster was heavily involved as well as Farrell who seems like a top coach

 

[Saintjay]

Has Mallett even applied? As far as I was aware it was a job application type thing. Lancaster being the only person who has put his name forward on record as being an applicant.

I would love to see the job specification or waffle as it has been called. Key points for applicants are do not rock the boat and upset the RFU, and must be in love with Rob Andrew.

 

[Feicarsinn]

I'd quite like to see Lancaster keep the job. While the rugby is far from fantastic so far, the sounds coming out of the camp seem to be a lot more positive than they have been for a long time. As a general rule happy players = players playing well. In fairness to him as well, most teams end up playing ugly rugby in Murrayfield and Italy, it's just the way to beat them. The weather and missing a lot of his attacking options didn't help either.

2 wins on the board, can't complain yet imo.

 

[big ginger 8]

I'd quite like to see Lancaster keep the job. While the rugby is far from fantastic so far, the sounds coming out of the camp seem to be a lot more positive than they have been for a long time. As a general rule happy players = players playing well. In fairness to him as well, most teams end up playing ugly rugby in Murrayfield and Italy, it's just the way to beat them. The weather and missing a lot of his attacking options didn't help either.

2 wins on the board, can't complain yet imo.

Apparently the Irish players are happy...hijacked.

 

[racingmetrofan]

Lancaster, for lack of better options.

 

[bushytop]

Starting to seem like the poisoned chalice that the is the England football manager position... think Mallinder agrees. For what its worth, with the pull and resources of the RFU they should forget about applicants and move heaven and Earth to get wos-his-face from Leinster.

 

[Feicarsinn]

Starting to seem like the poisoned chalice that the is the England football manager position... think Mallinder agrees. For what its worth, with the pull and resources of the RFU they should forget about applicants and move heaven and Earth to get wos-his-face from Leinster.

Absolutely not

 

[bushytop]

Hmmmm... you have to use the right bait when u go fishing. Knew there was a reason you Leinster guys were so content to let Lancaster get the job.

 

[Feicarsinn]

Hmmmm... you have to use the right bait when u go fishing. Knew there was a reason you Leinster guys were so content to let Lancaster get the job.

I hadn't even considered Schmidt taking the England job. As far as I know he's got another good while on his contract and in any case he's said in the past that he wouldn't necessarily be all that keen on international coaching. Apparently not too fond of the attention that comes with the top job even at club level, so I couldn't see the England gig of all jobs being all that palatable to Joe.

He would be the perfect coach for England though. Would bring a completely new style of play and ethos to the stagnating English game. He'd be the best thing to happen to English rugby since Clive Woodward.

 

[Saintjay]

Starting to seem like the poisoned chalice that the is the England football manager position... think Mallinder agrees. For what its worth, with the pull and resources of the RFU they should forget about applicants and move heaven and Earth to get wos-his-face from Leinster.

Football managers position, I am not sure what Mallinders views are on Harry Redknapp.

As for the rugby managers position I don't really think it is a poison chalice is it, we just expect are team to perform well in compititions and do not settle for fourth place. If they do not perform you have to ask why?. The only pressure with the England job is people expect sucess.

Mallinder has plenty of time on his side and it seems like he wants to continue doing a job at Northampton.

 

[big ginger 8]

Mallinder said he wan't to win something so obviously he feels he has unfinished business.

 

[King_D'Arcy]

Starting to seem like the poisoned chalice that the is the England football manager position... think Mallinder agrees. For what its worth, with the pull and resources of the RFU they should forget about applicants and move heaven and Earth to get wos-his-face from Leinster.

England can keep their dirty stinkin paws off wos-his-face. wos-his-face is unanimous with Leinster. They can't have him!