New Zealand v Ireland - Test 3 - 16 July 2022

[big ginger 8]

Really poor from us this half. NZ stretching us but real poor basic defence there.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Jesus Christ

 

[TRF_Olyy]

What about last week..? **** me if you NH blokes don't bend every rule to your advantage.

Just because you don't understand the laws doesn't mean they don't exist

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Wow.

 

[Groundhog]

That's a killer. We are going to seriously struggle to win this now. Momentum has swung so far away from us. Some lads have let the occasion get the better of them.


Was that conversion not over??

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

If Ireland lose this I'm having my Doritos early

 

[TopTen2003]

Goodness me WHAT A LINE that was from the winger, stunning.

 

[Which Tyler]

Law Application Guidelines | World Rugby Laws

Law application guidelines for the game of rugby union.

www.world.rugby

Trigger words for match officials

Match officials may wish to use the non-exhaustive list of trigger words below to help them identify whether a player is at fault, the degree of danger involved and whether any mitigation should be applied.


Play on

No fault

• Sudden and significant drop in height by the ball carrier
• Player had no time to readjust
• Passive action
• Involuntary collision
• No leading arm when close to the body

PK


YC

Low danger

• Indirect contact
• Low force
• Low speed
• Passive
• No leading head / shoulder / forearm

RC

High danger

• Direct contact
• Lack of control
• High speed
• Upright and dynamic
• Leading head / shoulder / elbow / forearm
• Swinging arm
• No mitigation for intentional or highly reckless act of foul play

Mitigation

• Sudden / significant drop in height or change in direction from ball carrier
• A late change in dynamics due to another player in the contact
• An effort to wrap / bind and having no time to adjust

 

[Groundhog]

If Ireland lose this I'm having my Doritos early

Caelan Dorisitos

 

[unrated]

New Zealand always come back in the second half and they are at home and you can imagine Foster will be having a speech for his job in the dressiny room now. Might be too much for the All Blacks to pull back but don't write them off yet, they can rack up a big score very fast.

Ireland to their credit is being masterful at the breakdown. Special mention to their defence.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

It's been a yellow all year in the Prem; and yes, I think it's "forceful vs passive" from the tackler in the guidelines. If the tackler is pushing up into the tackle, then it's a red all day; if soaking the ball carrier's energy to hold up or throw him down then it's yellow. But that's the Prem's interpretation - mostly led by Wayne, of course.

I'm not convinced it's any safer, so would actually like them to be red - takes out an excuse to downgrade it, and shows that it's about safety first and foremost - and then maybe they'd try coaching players to go a little bit lower... maybe.

I get the impression it's not about safety but about giving the referees the chance to downgrade accidental incidents (i.e. the old "rugby incident" loophole)

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Has to be a yellow surely

 

[big ginger 8]

Think Savea had that right rather than Barnes so a bit lucky.

Class from Keenan though.

 

[Groundhog]

Surely a yellow in that position no?

Edit: actually the ball may have been out to be fair to him. Can't knock him for acting on that, we didn't secure it properly

 

[Groundhog]

That was objectively a stupid decision to break off the maul. Lucky man

 

[Which Tyler]

I get the impression it's not about safety but about giving the referees the chance to downgrade accidental incidents (i.e. the old "rugby incident" loophole)

Yup.
Which they didn't allow for the first few years cracking down on tackling the airborn player. Once players stopped doing it, they allowed for genuine accidents again.

Should do the same for the head contacts. If you don't give the players (and ref.s) a way out, they'll stop putting themselves in that position.

 

[big ginger 8]

Actually great by Herring thought he'd made the right decision but the maul wouldn't have made it.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

That was objectively a stupid decision to break off the maul. Lucky man

If it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

NZ used to scare teams now they are losing to a team that couldn't get into the URC final

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Brilliant lineout and maul