Nothing compared to this England fallow period - we lost 5 games in a row in 98 but that was it, we've never lost to Scotland, Ireland or Argentina, and haven't lost to Wales since 1953 - you've done all that, and much more in the last 2 years[/b]
But boy, we could whip anyone when we really want to, onwards the English! :bana:
You said that New Zealand has won more world cups than the entire NH, which is a blatant lie. Go re-read your posts Ripper, I'm shocked and appalled that an amazing proofreader such as yourself could fail to pick up on that piece of information. Seriously, just admit you just won one world cup and get on with it.
Hype (From Non-NZ Nations - i.e no one in NZ in 91 really gave the AB's much chance, what with the team retiring/getting old, anybody with blood in the legs still getting poached by League (Our Top 2 Fullbacks were poached within a week in the lead up) and we had Co-Coaches... was a shame that Grizz Wylie and John Hart hate each other - ditto with 99 with around 8 players retiring 18 months before the World Cup), Sickness (cough*95*cough - still took 100 minutes with a nation united for the first time behind them for the Springboks to get past us in probably the toughest Rugby Game i've ever seen - the 03 Final was a game of tiddlywinks compared to that game) and stupidity (John Mitchell... nuff said).
but I still maintain we only choked in 03 and a lesser extent 99 - there we two equal teams in 95 and there is no way in hell we were (or at least deserved) the favourites tag in 91.
Well, the only time we really dominated the Lead Up to the World Cup was 2003 - 91 there was all that drama, Laurie Mains almost lost his Job in 94 and even with his 1995 Success still only had something like a 64% record and John Hart lost that 5 in a row in 1998 after having half the team retire.[/b]
And so it appears! Praise to the lord, for the fools have finally given me a straight answer after all these years! I shall drink to the nation of New Zealand tonight let me assure you!
And I thought New Zealand were dominator who have fallow periods. You see, you're telling me that they are amazing (which, yes, they are) but then you're making silly excuses for their flops at the world cup. You should demand more, seriously, they can take a bit of ribbing by the press and the fans so if they come out this year in the Semis, welcome them home with a lynch party.
He's played, what... 2 tests? I'm sure Graham Henry has nightmares about him[/b]
And he's played bloody well in both of them, the only player who drove Wales nuts, he has Jason Robinson qualities about him and lets face it, Jason Robinson in his prime would give Graham Henry nightmares.
lolza, so making 2 Finals and 2 Semi Finals =/= Your most memorable World Cup moment was losing 145-17.[/b]
No, my most memorable World Cup moment was winning the World Cup! :bana: Crikey Ripper, can I have a tip because you just got served! :bana:
And for that point, did I mention at that point that the NH had won more RWCs than the SH? No, I have focused exclusively on New Zealand and their failure to add more World Cups to their trophy cabinet.[/b]
No you haven't, before that you were going on about how SANZAR is holding the game back. Re-read your posts - and look which ones Shiznit responded to - you only started focusing on NZ AFTER Shiznit bought up the fact SANZAR teams results wise are destroying the ones in this "superior" Northern System.[/b]
No, why don't you re-read the newspaper or something instead. I know what I was talking about and to whom I was talking to and I don't need someone telling me that thank you very much! There was the debate over SANZAR but then (if you bothered to re-read properly) Shiznit mentioned New Zealand's "record" which has started this whole debate.
Originally posted by Prestwick
Can you tell me, please, straight, no bullshit, no dodging or diving, or using South Africa or Australia as a shield, or using cheap shots at NH players as a diversion, why New Zealand hasn't won a World Cup since the 1980s. I want a serious answer.
Retard Coaching Choices and Coaching Decisions (91, 03), Sickness (95) and the fact we weren't as good as hyped (91, 99)
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But these were the same coaches who had swept all before them
outside of the World Cup! So what happened?
Something always happens in the World Cup, its something different and as Test Matches are getting more and more devalued (which, granted we are responsible for that one) then things like the World Cup are starting to matter more and more. This is indicative of another major change in World Rugby as there is a large minority in the English and French fans who would rather that the Summer and even the Autumn internationals be culled in favour of a less congested league schedule!
Now I don't agree with this but this is starting to catch on. I really hope it won't catch on as I really do love internationals but, thats change and a bunch of old duffers from SANZAR won't be able to hold the tide back I am afraid.
Prestwick is pretty much saying that Australia is the greatest rugby nation of all because they have won the most world cups. This however is very wrong.[/b]
Haha no, I don't, I simply think that the World Cup is a serious and major set piece tournament and that it is baffling that the most consistent and best performing team (i.e. the All Blacks) haven't been able to win it since the late 1980s. Maybe it is just a freak of nature, that it is meant to be, that elephants are meant to have long trunks, whales have to surface to breathe and that the All Blacks are not meant to win any more than one World Cup?
We shall see! B)
