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Ireland v South Africa - 22/11/2025

It's getting penalised because you are out muscled in a scrum and unable to stop it legitimately much different to it you are out muscled in a maul and unable to stop it legitimately?

Having said that, I feel a penalty should only really be for if a team act cynically to prevent the team in possession from getting the ball back. If the ref deems a team header simply been out muscled then they should simply continue if the ball is available.
 
I was happy to be corrected. I'm half paying attention communicating here. I didn't note a warning for multiple infringements. I've always held a good faith debate relationship with those on this forum.

There were repeated infringements in one period of play, no warning necessary.
 
Fair play to Ireland. South Africa absolutely smashed them and somehow they stayed in the fight.

I worry for Wales next week
 
Happy for the win, but not a classic at all. A really weird game.
Maybe a game of high physical intensity, but not a game for attracting new fans to the game.

One negative point from this is Marx had a good game which may put Ox’s player of the year at risk (big fan of Marx, but he was very poor at the start of the season).

GG to Ireland, they fronted up extremely well at the latter end of the first half and weathered high intensity in the first twenty minutes of the second half. They’ve done well. Very interested to see how they do in the Six Nations. Speaking to my Leinster friend in person I said they were best case scenario third next year… with how I’ve seen France play, I’m not so sure anymore (but I still thin England wins the Six Nations)
 
Ignore Jackie. He's joined this board today to be salty it seems
Apologies. frustrating watch.
Thought S.A won by sheer power nothing else.when game was 15 aside it was even. SA did nothing special.only be bigger.
Shocking ref display imo. Disgraceful decision in first few min which would have altered the game massively. Never let it flow. Dreadful watch
 

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