F1 Racing

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

I honestly find him slimy. I think he works hard to portray himself as a gent, but underneath it all he's ruthless and will do anything for an advantage.

Some folk are naturally less charismatic. I'd rather a guy that makes an effort to show some manners than a manchild like Toto!

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I think Horner has a great sense of humour to be honest, I reckon he's the team boss I'd want to have a few beers with, arrogant to the extreme though but that's the sport. The rest seem rigid or boring or they're Toto, who just seems arrogant without the sense of humour.

I think the younger generation are great for the sport, they all seem far more approachable and likeable than the older guys are or were at their age....

Apart from George Russell, i think he's real smarmy or something.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

A lot of interesting talk on BBC text updates.

Some saying that teams just complain when others are innovative. Others saying that even if it is innovative it can still be illegal. Definitely think Horner would have kicked up a fuss regardless.

What I found the most ridiculous is that supposedly the rules can be changed this year mid season if 8 out 10 teams agree (though I thought I read elsewhere that the FIA and F1 have a vote too.) Honestly how can that be a thing. Rules should be set at the start of the season and that's it. A team can spend hundreds of thousand even millions developing their car to get an advantage and so the other teams just change the rules to stop them. That's what could conceivably happen. If it does then it'll be just as bad publicity as Aby Dhabi. The leaders in the constructors table suddenly having an illegal car because the other teams that were losing decided to change the rules.

The thing is these designs must be cleared with the FIA before they ever get to testing to the FIA will have already confirmed it's legal, although they can still pull some bullshit like with DAS as say it's legal but only for that year. Where you have parts flexing and dynamic shapes then there is an argument that the legality may vary during racing conditions but when you are talking rigid racing parts like the main body, it's much more cut and dry. At best they can say it's against the "spirit" of the rules, but that's kinda what bending the rules is all about. Ultimately if there is no valid reason to say Merc can't have it then it should stick, simply giving them an advantage should not be a valid excuse. The spirt of the rules is to make it easier for cars to follow each other and if this has no impact on the following cars, there isn't much a case to be made for the "spirit" of the rules being broken.

If it turns out to give a huge advantage, could definitely see some of the teams demanding a rule change, although realistically most aren't in a fight with Mercedes anyway so would only have a reason to request this if they thought other teams could make these changes but they couldn't.

 

[ncurd]

What I found the most ridiculous is that supposedly the rules can be changed this year mid season if 8 out 10 teams agree (though I thought I read elsewhere that the FIA and F1 have a vote too.)

What I read on the BBC website is it basically requires the FIA and F1 to start the process the teams themselves can't decide to change the rules.

The sidepods are definitely legal because they would never be approved otherwise. However that the rules to change rules is basically there if someone on contravenes the design philosophy that is meant to be the outcome of the current Formula. So essentially the FIA and F1 have to be convinced the Mercedes sidepods make it harder to follow it as a car than any other. Good luck proving that.


I use to like Horner but last season we saw a diffrent side of him that came under pressure of being a contender but not being the favourite or close to it. It was a bit ugly it doesn't help to some extent he's one of the most visible and known team principals. Beyond Toto you kind of have to go back to people like Brawn who was more known for Technical Director then you really go back to the 80's 90's guys when teams were named after themselves. L

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

I don't really have an issue with Horner's outward persona. At first I found him quite amusing. However him and fake doctor Marko have a tendency to say things that should be said behind closed doors to the media. I honestly prefer Toto's heat of the moment tantrums to the dishonesty of Red Bull.

I don't like the younger generation. I like sainz and gasly. They are my age and that's the only acceptable generation. The small window between geriatric millennial and zoomer. I prefer we go back to Ron Dennis, Colin Chapman, James hunt, and Mario out there.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I don't really have an issue with Horner's outward persona. At first I found him quite amusing. However him and fake doctor Marko have a tendency to say things that should be said behind closed doors to the media. I honestly prefer Toto's heat of the moment tantrums to the dishonesty of Red Bull.

I don't like the younger generation. I like sainz and gasly. They are my age and that's the only acceptable generation. The small window between geriatric millennial and zoomer. I prefer we go back to Ron Dennis, Colin Chapman, James hunt, and Mario out there.

Gasly is my favourite too, cool, well-dressed and French, he has it all. Unfortunately I don't see him going any better in his career than someone like Fisichella.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Gasly is my favourite too, cool, well-dressed and French, he has it all. Unfortunately I don't see him going any better in his career than someone like Fisichella.

Cool, well dressed *but* French. He almost has it all.

Should be from somewhere actually cool like Grimsby

 

[Reiser99]

Either Mercedes are seriously sandbagging or they are in trouble.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Either Mercedes are seriously sandbagging or they are in trouble.

Hamilton saying he doesn't expect to be competing for wins. I'm taking it with a pinch of salt currently but it'll be an interesting comment in hindsight regardless of how they go.

He's also hit the news because he wants to change his name to include his mother's, odd.

Ferrari getting most of the hype, hopefully they don't crumble.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Max Verstappen says Formula 1 does 'not need to heal'

World champion Max Verstappen says F1 "does not need to heal" after last year's controversial ***le decider.

www.bbc.co.uk

Max Verstappen says Formula 1 does 'not need to heal'

At this stage I can't work out if he is trying to make his ***le feel more legitimate or his head is actually rammed so far up his own arse he can't see how much damage the already tarnished image of F1 suffered as a result of what happened last year, and not just in the last race...

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I think he's just trolling Hamilton fans at this point, they get so tilted at everything Red Bull does or says - everyone else has moved on

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Yeah, he's coming across incredibly well in his interviews for the most part. I've started to like him a lot more since he won the championship.

 

[ncurd]

Max Verstappen says Formula 1 does 'not need to heal'

World champion Max Verstappen says F1 "does not need to heal" after last year's controversial ***le decider.

www.bbc.co.uk

Max Verstappen says Formula 1 does 'not need to heal'

At this stage I can't work out if he is trying to make his ***le feel more legitimate or his head is actually rammed so far up his own arse he can't see how much damage the already tarnished image of F1 suffered as a result of what happened last year, and not just in the last race...

Its got to be a bit of a mind ****, the sport governors are saying they ****** up and your first championship really shouldn't of happened. Even the rules have been clarified this week as everyone with a brain interpreted them as, all cars must be allowed to unlap themselves or none, if they do the race can't restarted that lap.

However equally none of that was your fault, you were statistically the best driver last year (I don't think the stats say that really, race factors come into laps led and stuff) and if an appeal had probably won as reported all they would of done was void the entire race and you'd still be champion.

He should just acknowledge mistakes were made throughout last season and the FIA is dealing with it but he's champion and nothing will change that. He doesn't feel its tainted as its not the first championship won in controversial circumstances but he wasn't involved in decisions that led to to controversy so why ask him questions about it. He's now focused on winning a second championship.

He'll probably mature with age and say less stupid stuff like they all do and be honest about what happened, like we all do, hes 24 years old with everyone around him telling him how great he is and how he can do no wrong. And thats how he constantly comes accross.


This will all blow over once the season actually starts. The FIA drip feeding actions and not releasing the report is what is keeping the story going.

 

[ncurd]

Watching Practice 3

Oh look Mercedes are suddenly fast.
.I'd be surprised if they didn't do this every year and just about every race.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Watching Practice 3

Oh look Mercedes are suddenly fast.
.I'd be surprised if they didn't do this every year and just about every race

Still hopeful for a three team ***le race though! Unfortunate that McLaren seem to have got it wrong, four cars with race winning potential would be loose.

 

[ncurd]

97 days to tell us what we all knew, the ref got the rules wrong.

Still think they should of voided that last lap as it should ended under safety car so you can clearly say what should of happened. But it was clear the FIA wouldn't do that and nobody else would of made that nuanced a modification of the result.

Formula 1: 'Human error' responsible for incorrect application of rules in Abu Dhabi

Formula 1's governing body says "human error" was responsible for the incorrect application of rules in the 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

first weekend I haven't watched the practice sessions in three years. Probably will miss my first race in god knows when. Watched some endurance racing and will watch Indycar. I'm off this narcotic.

 

[Reiser99]

97 days to tell us what we all knew, the ref got the rules wrong.

Still think they should of voided that last lap as it should ended under safety car so you can clearly say what should of happened. But it was clear the FIA wouldn't do that and nobody else would of made that nuanced a modification of the result.

Formula 1: 'Human error' responsible for incorrect application of rules in Abu Dhabi

Formula 1's governing body says "human error" was responsible for the incorrect application of rules in the 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

www.bbc.co.uk

Now we see why Verstappen didn't want the report published. He has a tainted ***le.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

It doesn't matter that they've released the report. The 2021 season is now a fraud and IMO there are enough motorsport competitions that don't have incompetent officials for me to get invested in F1. I really thought that the sacking of Masi would bring me back but Abu Dhabi was like finding out Santa wasn't real and he never really got you presents anyway.

 

[ncurd]

Still hopeful for a three team ***le race though! Unfortunate that McLaren seem to have got it wrong, four cars with race winning potential would be loose.

Think Mercedes will be there in a race or two. Its a shame McLaren seam to have gone backwards but we'll see could all be teething issues and they'll solve whatever is causing their original problems.