Euros 2024 - Germany

[Leonormous Boozer]

I initially liked the 24 team tournament because on first go Ireland weren't incompetent enough to not qualify but not anymore. The tournament may as well not have started for me yet though. The 16 team tournament was a higher quality from the start than the World Cup, this tournament with luck of the draw that's skewed in favour of the groups that play last doesn't buck the trend of modern sports ruining a good thing by not realising jeopardy is what makes sport exciting to most people.

I'll probably pick off an interesting round 2 game but doubt I'll be captivated by it until the semis if at all.

Can genuinely say I've not watched a second and that's not normal for me.

The draw for the knockout is a mess with this 4/6 best 3rd place teams also qualify and algorithms deciding who plays who. Much simpler when they had top 2 in each group go through. But that was when they had 16 teams and 4 groups. This is what the next World Cup will be like with 48 teams.

So either Netherlands or the 3rd place team in Group E awaits them. Southgate is lucky man with draws - could have been worse with Germany, France (who have also been ****), Spain, Portugal on the other side.

Anyone who remembers the last time England played in Germany in 2006 won't be surprised. Beckham and co were also **** in the Group stages lacking energy and struggling to get the ball up the pitch through midfield. 1988 was even worse, where they didn't even get out of the group and lost to the Irish. Lineker should remember but he did have Hepatitis.

To be fair that Irish team were comparable to England until about 94. Were unlucky not to beat the USSR and reach the semis. The Dutch were another matter!

 

[Bada-Bing!]

To be fair that Irish team were comparable to England until about 94. We're unlucky not to beat the USSR and reach the semis. The Dutch were another matter!

They were definitely your golden generation. But I wouldn't go as far as comparable
To England. England got to the semis of the 1990 World Cup - and penalties from getting to the final, whereas ROI got to the quarters of that one IIRC. Of course the one after - England didn't even qualify and ROI did beating Italy in group stages in 1994 - losing in the round of 16. I remember ROI being a long ball team - equivalent of how Wimbledon played back then. To their strengths and Jack Charlton got the best out of them.

1988 - freak goal from the Dutch got them
The win v your boys. Back then it was only 2 groups of 4 though. But yeh loved that Dutch team of Guillit, MVB, Rijkaard and Koeman who of course is managing the Dutch team. MVB's volley in the final still the best Euros goal for me.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Come on Georgia.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

UEFA Euro 2024 - Groups & Schedule

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And so we have the last 16 confirmed. England very lucky with theirs, but means jack unless they play a lot better. Gordon, Palmer and Mainoo should come in.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Bye bye Italy. Switzerland to play winners of England and Slovakia.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Italy won the Eurovision then the Euros

Switzerland won the Eurovision......?

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Rafa winning RG and Real the CL didn't work out this year. Instead Carlitos did. So, I suppose it did work out in the end.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Broke my euro 24 virginity with the second half of Germany Denmark yesterday. Wanted the Danes to win but agreed with the call (ref the game strictly and let the players and fans catch up).

Shocked at how much better Slovakia have looked out of the two teams here.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

If England lose here, surely Southgate gets pushed out?

 

[Saintjay]

Broke my euro 24 virginity with the second half of Germany Denmark yesterday. Wanted the Danes to win but agreed with the call (ref the game strictly and let the players and fans catch up).

Shocked at how much better Slovakia have looked out of the two teams here.

If you've watched England recently it's not a shock.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

If England lose here, surely Southgate gets pushed out?

Of the plane home?

 

[Reiser99]

Given the quality of the players and the performances then Southgate obviously goes. He's not getting the best out of them and this would be a disappointing tournament both in terms of the round reached and the performances. I reckon he'll resign quickly unless something major changes.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

That long shot from their own half going in would've been hilarious, so close

 

[Bada-Bing!]

If Shaw doesn't come on and play when is he?

So that confirms what a waste of time bringing Shaw to Germany. Play a right winger at left back.

 

[General Melchett]

The movement of England's players is awful. Nobody is able to find any space or make intelligent runs. That's on Southgate's coaching and tactics. Kane doesn't look fit and looks a shadow of his normal self.

The Premier League have done a brilliant job with their 'best league in the world' branding because £100m players like Declan Rice are looking bang average. Saka, Foden, Stones, Trippier, Walker also look bang average and this is meant to be a golden generation.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Rice plays as an 8 for Arsenal because even Arteta could see he's not a progressive passer of the ball. Best attributes of a good engine, can block and carry. But you would think he'd have added passing it forwards 10 yards regularly by now?

And now Kane missing a sitter.

 

[General Melchett]

Golden chance missed by the captain - something is definitely not right with him.

Time for Southgate to let the handbrake off and get more attacking subs on.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Finally…. Bells.

 

[die_mole]

Do you even let kane take a pk?

 

[Gavin]

I mean that goal celebration is embarrassing.

The team has played awful the entire match and what it is directed at the fans?