[EOYT] England vs. Australia 02/11/13

[LittleGuy]

England vs. Australia. 02/11/13, 14:30 GMT(01:30 AEDT* Sunday) Twickenham Stadium, London, England

Referee: George Clancy (Ireland)

Broadcast: England: Sky Sports 2 (live) Australia: ( let me know please)

3rd ranked England will look to start their end of year home matches off to a good start when they take on 4th ranked Australia who have rekindled some form in their past two games after a series of fairly dour performances.

Lineups will be posted when available.

England

15 Mike Brown
14 Chris Ashton
13 Joel Tomkins
12 Billy Twelvetrees
11 Marland Yarde
10 Owen Farrell
9 Lee Dickson
1 Mako Vunipola
2 Tom Youngs
3 Dan Cole
4 Joe Launchbury
5 Courtney Lawes
6 Tom Wood
7 Chris Robshaw (c)
8 Binny Bunibola

Replacements:

16 Dylan Hartley
17 Joe Marler
18 David Wilson
19 Dave Attwood
20 Ben Morgan
21 Ben Youngs
22 Toby Flood
23 Ben Foden



Australia:

15 Israel Folau
14 Adam Ashley-Cooper
13 Tevita Kuridrani
12 Matt Toomua
11 Nick Cummins
10 Quade Cooper
9 Will Genia
8 Ben Mowen (c)
7 Michael Hooper
6 Scott Fardy
5 James Horwill
4 Sitaleki Timani
3 Ben Alexander
2 Stephen Moore
1 James Slipper

Replacements:

16 Saia Faingaa
17 Benn Robinson
18 Sepoke Kepu
19 Kane Douglas
20 Ben McCalman
21 Nic White
22 Christian Lealiifano
23 Bernard Foley.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

In England it's being shown on Sky Sports 2 and the programme starts at 1.30pm.

 

[Big Ewis]

no idea what to predict here. Every time I've thought about this matchup, I just couldn't get a straight answer.
The Wallabies' attack is back...but their defense leaves to be desired. I *MIGHT* just give them a tiny little nod over England...but bearing in mind England are looking for revenge, and are at home...but yet, they can't just will themselves to victory, but it would appear as thought they 'ought to win this one'.
I'll say perhaps Australia by 5.

 

[Jaguares]

What could be the line-up of England? There will be many players from the last June International tour?

 

[ratsapprentice]

What could be the line-up of England? There will be many players from the last June International tour?

It's going to be announced at 12:30 (GMT).

There will almost certainly be 2 or 3.

 

[Jaguares]

It's going to be announced at 12:30 (GMT).

There will almost certainly be 2 or 3.

What will the lineup for you? Or which would you choose?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I worry about the England squad. Quite a few injuries and the team still isn't fully formed. If they put one on the Aussies I would be very happy but I'm not entirely convinced they can.

 

[michaelbolton]

It's going to be announced at 12:30 (GMT).

There will almost certainly be 2 or 3.

Where did you find this information? And is there anywhere to find it?

What will the lineup for you? Or which would you choose?

Expecting: (assuming corbs is fit)
1. Corbisiero
2. Hartley
3. Cole
4. Launchbury
5. Parling
6. Wood
7. Robshaw
8. Morgan
9. Youngs
10. Farrell
11. Yarde
12. Twelvetrees
13. Tomkins
14. Ashton
15. Brown

16. Youngs
17. Vunipola
18. Wilson
19. Lawes
20. Kvesic
21. Dickson
22. Flood
23. Trinder

However I would change Trinder to 13 and Foden to 15, Brown to 23. Id start Dickson at 9, Burns as 22, Kvesic at 7, Attwood in for Lawes if fit. I would also like Wade for Ashton but less bothered on that one.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Forget what I just said - complete ********.
A brainfart.

 

[Jaguares]

However I would change Trinder to 13 and Foden to 15, Brown to 23. Id start Dickson at 9, Burns as 22, Kvesic at 7, Attwood in for Lawes if fit. I would also like Wade for Ashton but less bothered on that one.

What do u think about Danny Care?

 

[Wasps For Life]

Probable Line up:

1. Vunipola (as Corbs is probably injured)
2. Youngs
3. Cole
4. Launchbury
5. Parking
6. Wood
7. Robshaw
8. Morgan
9. Youngs
10. Farrell
11. Yarde
12. Twelvetrees
13. Tomkins
14. Ashton
15. Brown

My lineup

1. Vunipola
2. Hartley
3. Wilson
4. Lawes
5. Attwood
6. Robshaw
7. Kvesic
8. Vunipola
9. Youngs
10. Farrell
11. Yarde
12. Twelvetrees
13. Burrell
14. Wade
15. Foden

 

[michaelbolton]

What do u think about Danny Care?

Really overrated, passing is terrible, runs too much IMO and lacks a cool head. I know I will get abuse off someone but I would have him as about 5th choice

 

[michaelbolton]

Probable Line up:

1. Vunipola (as Corbs is probably injured)
2. Youngs
3. Cole
4. Launchbury
5. Parking
6. Wood
7. Robshaw
8. Morgan
9. Youngs
10. Farrell
11. Yarde
12. Twelvetrees
13. Tomkins
14. Ashton
15. Brown

My lineup

1. Vunipola
2. Hartley
3. Wilson
4. Lawes
5. Attwood
6. Robshaw
7. Kvesic
8. Vunipola
9. Youngs
10. Farrell
11. Yarde
12. Twelvetrees
13. Burrell
14. Wade
15. Foden

Lawes doesnt deserve to start and Burrell is not ready for Internationals yet. His defence is dodgy as it is, without moving him to 13. But apart from that I pretty much agree

 

[Wasps For Life]

I was in two minds whether to choose Launchbury or Lawes and chose Lawes cause of his form and especially the match against ospreys
What about the combo of Lawes and Launchbury?

 

[michaelbolton]

Too lightweight and no lineout leader. And neither of them is great at carrying

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

I was in two minds whether to choose Launchbury or Lawes and chose Lawes cause of his form and especially the match against ospreys
What about the combo of Lawes and Launchbury?

No one to run the lineout, i read that Lawes has started running some of the saints ones but neither of those players are a main jumper.

You could have

Lawes - Attwood
Lawes - Parling

Lauchberry - Attwood
Lauchberry - Parling

Attwood - Parling

The Lawes - Attwood combo looks brutal! Don't know if it would actually work though.

 

[Wasps For Life]

Wb Lawes and Launchbury with Croft?

 

[Bada-Bing!]

http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-uni...s-alex-corbisiero-ruled-out-of-england-opener

No big surprise that Corbs is out of the Australia game; shame as I was looking forward to him beasting Ben Alexander again. I would prefer Mako to start, rather than Marler. However, now Corbs is out, I am more convinced Lancaster should choose Hartley, if he is fit, instead of Youngs. I think a front row Mako, Youngs and Cole is not a great scrummaging combination. As the Lions 2nd test showed, Mako just gets too far away from Youngs and a prop, as poor as Ben ALexander, exploited it. I would hope Hartley, being a stronger scrummager can help rectify this.

Another big question in the pack is who partners Geoff Parling. England need a big tighthead lock to help anchor the scrum; who this is going to be out of Launchbury, Lawes and Attwood? Launchbury is the man in possession of the shirt; but does Lawes recent good form surpass Joe this season? Attwood is another, but I have not seen enough of him to comment and pick him.

Back row: the consensus amongst pundits is to go with Wood, Robshaw and Billy VUnipola. I'm not so sure, I still favour Morgan to start at 8 and to bring Billy's carrying ability later on when the game is more open.

Scrum-half/ fly-half: Ben Youngs and Farrell. Questions over Youngs, and the alternative is Lee Dickson. I haven't seen him play for Northampton this season, but can't get the image of previous times I've seen him play for England having his damn foot on the ball at the bottom of each ruck, looking round and assessing his options and slowing everything down. I hope he was eradicated this from his game.

Centres: Twelvetrees and Trinder. Gloucester club partnership, with Tomkins to come on as sub or start v Argentina.

Back three: Looks like it will be Yarde, Brown and Ashton.

 

[Big Ewis]

Too lightweight and no lineout leader. And neither of them is great at carrying

lol, dude sorry but, is your username in reference to the film "Office Space" ??? :lol:

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Is Hartley really that strong of a scrummager, though? Even in a dominant scrum he always pops up first.
If we wanted the strongest scrummager then we should look at the newly-called-up Webber. Won't happen, though.


I'd be happy to see Dickson start. I, too, have horrible memories of him spending 15-20minutes at the base of the ruck, but luckily they brought in the 5s rule just after (coincidence? ) and he's been on fire this season for Saints. Flip a coin for Youngs/Care on the bench, there's not a lot between them at the moment to be honest.