England vs South Africa 20 / 11 / 2021

[Which Tyler]

England vs South Africa - Minute by Minute - RugbyRebels

Minute by Minute breakdown

Minute 1: South Africa kick off and we appear completely taken aback. There's half a pod and no jumper, but thankfully Slade takes it above his head and we secure the ball. Lawes carries the next phase up, putting in a lovely step to leave De Jager flat on his face and we set up the first caterpillar. Youngs slices the box kick too short and South Africa get the ball back. They go backwards in the face of our defence for a couple of phases before Pollard puts up the high bomb towards May, who has the start of his nightmare by being beaten to the tap by Vermeulen. Thankfully Curry is there to collect the loose ball and we can finish the minute with another caterpillar.

Minute 2: Youngs's second box kick is too long, but South Africa are lucky to get away with two penalties, first for Le Roux crossing behind Nche and second for Nche then going straight off his feet to seal off the ball. Ref seems fine, so Pollard puts up a high ball on Steward that is taken without any competition. The boy who can't attack beats two and makes 9m up to halfway. Smith then shows Pollard how it's done with a beautiful high ball that May wins back. The ball is scrambled back to Smith who then puts in a beautiful cross-kick to Marchant who takes the ball on the bounce at the SA 22.

Minute 3: England recycle as Curry is there quickly to secure the ball and we spin it out for some strong forward carries by Sinckler and Itoje. Smith makes a little half-break that is ended by a probably high tackle from Etzebeth, but it's given us momentum and quick ball. Youngs draws a defender and puts in an orgasmic little grubber off the outside of his boot. It's either something Steward has called or he's read Youngs incredibly well, cause he's running at full-tilt to chase it and Le Roux does exceptionally well to take the ball back over his own line.

Minute 4: We fail to scrum. South Africa are very keen to get stuck in and give away a free-kick for an early engage, which we then choose as another scrum. Ballsy early call.

Minute 5: Rodd does Nyakane like a kipper with sneakiness. The SA 3 wants to charge in and dominate Rodd like all the prematch stuff said he would, so Rodd lets him come and drops him to the floor. Easy penalty and great skulduggery from the youngster. England kick to the corner....

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[Jashay]

That was a cracking read; really interesting. Loads of stuff I wouldn't have picked up on even with a dozen rewatches.

 

[Geordie]

So are we all agreed for the 6n....
10 Smith
12 Slade
13 Marchant

So Eddie will play
10 Furbank
12 Farrell - the second he is fit
13 Slade

 

[Wasps92]

If there was quick ball to Steyn she'd have been flattened

I never noticed that live. What the **** is she doing? That's absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Geordie]

So where are we going to find our De Allande....or Manu replacement?

 

[McTallshort]

I never noticed that live. What the **** is she doing? That's absolutely ridiculous.

Reminds me of mini rugby when the coach is walking up with the kids shouting instructions

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

I never noticed that live. What the **** is she doing? That's absolutely ridiculous.

Cheating, as SA are massive cheats, all led by Rassie.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

So where are we going to find our De Allande....or Manu replacement?

Do we actually need one?

Manu's a one off, but we can't rely on him.

In the backs I prefer rapier to bludgeon and we showed on Sat that we have that if we let it loose. If Slade could actually perform with a 12 on his back that would be ideal. Slade and Marchant have the passing and running games to cause any team problems and while they're not huge they shouldn't be bullied either.

In the front 5 give me bludgeon all day long.

 

[Jashay]

If there was an up-and-coming wrecking ball in the centres I'd be all for giving them a look as a potential Manu replacement. But as far as I'm aware there isn't one, so I'd much rather we try and get the most out of the centres we do have than try to force someone to be Manu.

Same with number 8, really. We don't have a replacement for peak-Billy V, not even Billy V himself. So lets use what we have instead of asking Tom Curry to pretend he weighs 20kg more.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Yeah, if there's no blatant, top class, wrecking ball centre then we build around what we've got
Obsessing over something on paper is the issue we've had at 8, where we asked everyone to play like Binny

 

[ChicagoKid]

The referee should just instantly stop play, and if it's found that they've not run on for a legitimate reason (i.e. someone unconscious/badly injured) then it's either a scrum put in, or a penalty, to the opposition and the physio (or waterboy or whatever) is red carded and can't return for the rest of the game

You can't red card the physio haha. Red card the physio and a player has a critical injury on the field, you have the lawsuit of all lawsuits on your hands World Rugby.

Last year, an American basketball player had a heart attack on the court and barely survived only because they had a defibrillator and trained doctors on hand. She shouldn't have been on the field, but who cares if she was cheering? She has a rooting interest and is paid by SARU. I'm assuming she has some type of performance bonus based on winning like most corporate employees.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

You can't red card the physio haha. Red card the physio and a player has a critical injury on the field, you have the lawsuit of all lawsuits on your hands World Rugby.

Last year, an American basketball player had a heart attack on the court and barely survived only because they had a defibrillator and trained doctors on hand. She shouldn't have been on the field, but who cares if she was cheering? She has a rooting interest and is paid by SARU. I'm assuming she has some type of performance bonus based on winning like most corporate employees.

Who cares if SA once again have non-players on the field when they shouldn't be not acting in their official capacity? Well damn, just send on the whole coaching staff with some pom poms whilst we are at it?

For a side that have become so anal about the laws of the game being correctly applied, it does seem you are extremely lax at applying them when it is your side in the wrong... If she wasn't on the pitch in her capacity as a physio then she shouldn't have been on at all. There is no debate to be had here, no excuses. Hell arguably she shouldn't even be shouting from the sidelines, obscuring the assistant refs vision and generally getting in the way.

 

[unrated]

I feel like the win has given English supporters an excuse to display their sour grapes.

 

[Teddington Logic]

I feel like the win has given English supporters an excuse to display their sour grapes.

you mean like in a pathetic whole world is against us video analysis type of way?

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I agree you can't send a physio off lol.

World rugby have to get a strict code for pro levels on this type of thing, tough with Physios who need to be allowed quick access to the pitch when they have a genuine belief they're required. Currently it's obvious that their approach is very much tackling problems as they arise. SA have been quite cynical in exploiting all of this but I'm seeing it more in a "don't hate the player, hate the game" way than South Africa being some great evil disgracing the game.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

You can't red card the physio haha. Red card the physio and a player has a critical injury on the field, you have the lawsuit of all lawsuits on your hands World Rugby.

Is there not a difference between the physios and the full blooded medical staff? The SA defence coach is technically registered as a team physio so can go on the pitch whenever he wants
In the Prem at least the medical staff wear bibs to differentiate themselves as such

She wasn't running on to the pitch to do anything job related, so it shouldn't be allowed, simple as - if a red card during the game is too much then it should be a fine and/or ban afterwards - and still should be a break in play, similar to if a ball is thrown on the pitch or a streaker etc.

I feel like the win has given English supporters an excuse to display their sour grapes.

This kind of stuff has been going on for months - there was a lot of similar clips during the lions tour of SA physios getting a bit too involved in the game

Plus John Barclay is very much not English/an English supporter

 

[Crash Hamster]

I feel like the win has given English supporters an excuse to display their sour grapes.

No, sour grapes is when you want a thing, can't have it, then explain how rubbish that thing was. 'Didn't want to win the World Cup anyway, it's a tedious competition' would be sour grapes.

'Didn't want to win at Twickenham, it's not an important game, the World Cup is all that matters' would certainly be sour grapes...

It's not possible to have sour grapes about a game you've won.

 

[Becca]

It's nonsense to have her running on the pitch whenever she feels like it or prowling the touch line shrieking her head off.
No team should have their back room staff behaving like this, I don't care who they are !

I understood there was already protocol in place to stop this sort of thing happening ? I could be wrong.

 

[ChicagoKid]

It's nonsense to have her running on the pitch whenever she feels like it or prowling the touch line shrieking her head off.
No team should have their back room staff behaving like this, I don't care who they are !

I understood there was already protocol in place to stop this sort of thing happening ? I could be wrong.

Shrieking her head off - Come on man.

Well damn, just send on the whole coaching staff with some pom poms whilst we are at it?

I think Bath's recent performance has you in a foul mood. Coaches or support staff on the sidelines cheering on their teammates is common across all sports. How can you expect people to play with passion and the crowd to be jazzed up, but the coaching and support staff to be wallflowers? Her going on the pitch is wrong, her cheering on the Boks is fine and perfectly normal.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Shrieking her head off - Come on man.

I think Bath's recent performance has you in a foul mood. Coaches or support staff on the sidelines cheering on their teammates is common across all sports. How can you expect people to play with passion and the crowd to be jazzed up, but the coaching and support staff to be wallflowers? Her going on the pitch is wrong, her cheering on the Boks is fine and perfectly normal.

They almost always have a zone they are allowed in when that is the case. Not running up and down the touchline getting in the way