England Six Nations squad 2022

[Which Tyler]

When you're picking between the 2, I would pretty much always start the stronger scrummager - which means that the opponents should be more tired by the time you bring on the weaker.

Exceptions would be when the scrummaging difference is massively smaller than the non-scrummaging difference; or if you're South Africa, and are planning on just battering a tired scrum later in the game, milking penalties and yellow cards in an act of psychological warfare.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

When you're picking between the 2, I would pretty much always start the stronger scrummager - which means that the opponents should be more tired by the time you bring on the weaker.

Exceptions would be when the scrummaging difference is massively smaller than the non-scrummaging difference; or if you're South Africa, and are planning on just battering a tired scrum later in the game, milking penalties and yellow cards in an act of psychological warfare.

Not sure I agree with that logic. Your replacement prop is just going to be up against their replacement prop, who is also going to be tired. I guess you could say that the opposition lock pushing behind their prop could be tired but, so is the one pushing behind your prop.

 

[BPM]

Marler is regarded as 'just a scrummaging prop' which does a real disservice to the rest of his game. He is defensively excellent, has a brilliant engine (exhibit A being last season's semi-final when he played about 100mins!) and is actually a surprisingly good passer of the ball. He's not going to make big breaks, but his carrying is fine too - he'll get you over the gain line and rarely gets turned over.

I'm probably biased, but I'd start Marler and have Genge to make an impact from the bench.

Collier has also been a revelation this season. He doesn't offer too much in the loose, but he works hard and is a very good technical scrummager.

A front row of Marler, George and Collier would be extremely solid.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

There needs to be balance as well between the LH and TH, we could do with one strong scrummager on at any one time so we could do a Marler and Sinckler and then a Genge and Collier.

 

[Which Tyler]

Not sure I agree with that logic. Your replacement prop is just going to be up against their replacement prop, who is also going to be tired. I guess you could say that the opposition lock pushing behind their prop could be tired but, so is the one pushing behind your prop.

Most scrums (and mauls for that matter) involve more than 1 player from each side.
Most benches don't contain 8 forwards (but please don't suggest the idea to Eddie).

Marler is regarded as 'just a scrummaging prop'

Is he?
Certainly not by me, and I'm not sure anyone else here does either. He's a very good all-round prop BUT, he's a significantly stronger scrummager than Genge, whilst having poorer hands

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Most scrums (and mauls for that matter) involve more than 1 player from each side.
Most benches don't contain 8 forwards (but please don't suggest the idea to Eddie).

I mean yeah I get that, but my point was moreso that since both teams have the same number of subs then each side's scrum is going to be equally weakened by tiredness. Unless one goes for a 5/3 and one a 6/2, but that's just splitting hairs.

 

[BPM]

Most scrums (and mauls for that matter) involve more than 1 player from each side.
Most benches don't contain 8 forwards (but please don't suggest the idea to Eddie).


Is he?
Certainly not by me, and I'm not sure anyone else here does either. He's a very good all-round prop BUT, he's a significantly stronger scrummager than Genge, whilst having poorer hands

Perhaps not here specifically, but I'd say that's definitely the slightly lazy portrayal that is often rolled-out on most platforms.

Genge's carrying is a big differentiator but I don't think his hands are that good TBH. His pass for George's try was a thing of beauty, but he's often cited his concentration issues as a reason for knocking the ball on more often than he'd like.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

WC final tomorrow if 100% start Marler and bench Genge (he can have the last 20).

Marlers a much better scrummager, has a cool head while winding others up, puts in some monster hits every now and again and is a really good all round prop.

Genge does knock the ball on more and make more mistakes but is a good carrier (although he's not brought his domestic form to the international stage continuously).

Tight head is the real issue, really what does Sinckler offer? But then there's not really anyone banging at the door for that TH shirt right now.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Sickler always seems to have that look like everything is just so much EFFORT and does he really have to? He never looks like he's exactly switched on and the whole thing seems like a chore to him.

 

[BiggusLaddus]

Sinckler looks to have gone backwards lately. Doesn't seem to do a great deal ball in hand and has been struggling in the scrums. A TH can't be there just because he has a nice late pass. And that new pulling out of scrums habit needs to be broken very quickly.

I think he also looks worse for his casual affectation. Because he looks a bit nonchalant, as soon as his form dips the immediate reaction is that he isn't trying hard enough.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Sinckler looks to have gone backwards lately.

@LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan) will explain why shortly

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Perhaps not here specifically, but I'd say that's definitely the slightly lazy portrayal that is often rolled-out on most platforms.

Genge's carrying is a big differentiator but I don't think his hands are that good TBH. His pass for George's try was a thing of beauty, but he's often cited his concentration issues as a reason for knocking the ball on more often than he'd like.

Genge is also dispraxic tbf so that may explain some of it.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

@LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan) will explain why shortly

No idea but it is LAMing season soon so a PAT on the head for whoever knows why.

 

[AngloScotsHybrid]

Why does Fraser Dingwall not get more of a mention for England?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Honestly IMO Dingwall is more a defensive 13 than a 12 (I know he's been playing 12 for Saints recently but their play hasn't exactly worked IMO) and IMO 13 isn't that much of an issue for England.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Honestly IMO Dingwall is more a defensive 13 than a 12 (I know he's been playing 12 for Saints recently but their play hasn't exactly worked IMO) and IMO 13 isn't that much of an issue for England.

Hutchinson is a better 12 than Dingwall in my opinion but both are great premiership standard players with potential they just don't quite get to.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Mitchell
Dolly
Underhill
In

Quirke (Concussion)
Cowan-Dickie (out for season)
Dombrandt (Covid)
Out

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Mitchell
Dolly
Underhill
In

Quirke (Concussion)
Cowan-Dickie (out for season)
Dombrandt (Covid)
Out

Ah, Underhill and Dombrandt, such similar players that even play the same position!

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Dombrandt expected to rejoin the squad later in the week.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Ireland literally pooing their pants at the thought of playing a Lawes, Ludlow, Simmonds backrow