England Six Nations squad 2022

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

honestly Lawes, Underhill, Simmonds wouldn't be the worst back row

 

[Makeshift10]

Ireland literally pooing their pants at the thought of playing a Lawes, Ludlow, Simmonds backrow

Ludlow not in squad.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Ludlow not in squad.

Thank God for that

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Forgot he got called up tbh
Radwan also misses out

 

[Wasps92]

Honestly thought Underhill was done for the season after his latest concussion. We need to be careful with him. Don't get me wrong I'm delighted he's back in the squad as in my opinion he's our best flanker.

 

[Wasps92]

Sinckler looks to have gone backwards lately. Doesn't seem to do a great deal ball in hand and has been struggling in the scrums. A TH can't be there just because he has a nice late pass. And that new pulling out of scrums habit needs to be broken very quickly.

I think he also looks worse for his casual affectation. Because he looks a bit nonchalant, as soon as his form dips the immediate reaction is that he isn't trying hard enough.

Agreed, in fact I thought he was atrocious against Wales.

 

[Jashay]

Honestly thought Underhill was done for the season after his latest concussion. We need to be careful with him. Don't get me wrong I'm delighted he's back in the squad as in my opinion he's our best flanker.

Yeah, he had two in two months... Normally I'd be happy to trust the judgement of the professionals, but I am a little concerned here; the guy sticks his head in some pretty high-impact places

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Wasn't his last concussion against us in January? That's a very quick return after two consecutive ones, hope for his sake all necessary precautions have been taken and nothing bad happens if he plays this weekend. (Apart from a horrendously embarrassing loss on his part)

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Yeah, as much as Underhill is one of my favourite players I don't want to see him playing this soon - especially the intensity of international rugby

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

It does feel like it's going down the George North route of back in the game too fast. Underhill came back from concussion recovery and I think it was literally his first or second game back, he was out again. If the same happens again, we could be looking at career ending situations... It's just not worth it and I think rugby in general really needs to clamp down on players being rushed back before they are ready. The likes of Tuilagi getting injured the second the start playing again and being injured more than fit is a stain on the sport. It sends the message that player welfare doesn't matter, they just want you back on the field asap.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Manu's hamstring and Underhills head should be gently managed and I have no faith in Eddie Jones' England to do that unfortunately.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Different set ups, roles etc, but all of the Eng 2015 RWC coaching team is now in Ireland seemingly doing OK. Farrell and Catt with the national team, Rowntree's just extended his contract to work with the Munster forwards and Lancaster at Leinster. Chuck in Edwards and you've got a good number of English coaches in different aspects working at a good level, extending their horizons and banking some great experience beyond the narrow confines of the GP and HQ.

You can argue this is the kind of broader experience they should have had before getting involved with England, nonetheless they will be very different beasts to 7 years ago. Edwards is the oldest of the bunch at 55 so all have time on their side. Could there be a role for some in the post Jones era?

 

[ncurd]

I think with Farrell Sr. we have to wait until Jr. is out of the picture, I think a big part of our issues with them came from not being able to decide who our first choice fly half was.

 

[Which Tyler]

I think with Farrell Sr. we have to wait until Jr. is out of the picture, I think a big part of our issues with them came from not being able to decide who our first choice fly half was.

They can keep Farrell Snr (for now); we'll take O'Gara

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Different set ups, roles etc, but all of the Eng 2015 RWC coaching team is now in Ireland seemingly doing OK. Farrell and Catt with the national team, Rowntree's just extended his contract to work with the Munster forwards and Lancaster at Leinster. Chuck in Edwards and you've got a good number of English coaches in different aspects working at a good level, extending their horizons and banking some great experience beyond the narrow confines of the GP and HQ.

You can argue this is the kind of broader experience they should have had before getting involved with England, nonetheless they will be very different beasts to 7 years ago. Edwards is the oldest of the bunch at 55 so all have time on their side. Could there be a role for some in the post Jones era?

I think many will still feel hurt by the treatment post-2015. Arguably it was correct, they did monumentally **** up in 2015 by abandoning everything they had built in the years before to go for a very basic boshing plan and throwing all the previous tactics out the window to play extremely negative rugby. I think what Jones achieved immediately after shows how close the team were to being a great team but their extremely poor choices in the world cup threw it all away.

I can see maybe Farrell snr coming back but none of the others.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I think Farrell is the only one I'd take back, tbh - I really rate Lancaster but (and I've said this before) don't think his style lends itself to the England job, and Catt is neither here nor there


Edit: Completely forgot about Rowntree, think he'd be an instant boost tbh

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Head coach - Farrell
Forwards Coach - Rowntree
Would be a good mix

When you look back at it in 2015
Farrell was only 39
Rowntree was 43
Catt was 43

It was a pretty young group on the whole don't think any of them had more than 7 years coaching experience

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

When you look back at it in 2015
Farrell was only 39
Rowntree was 43
Catt was 43

Only just realised that Andy had Owen at 16.

 

[Which Tyler]

Only just realised that Andy had Owen at 16.

Pretty sure they were on the pitch together for Sarries in an AWC match - though it's possible they missed each other by a couple of minutes (if so, cruel, cruel coaches)

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Interesting Rassie articles recently talks about England job potentially.

I can see it.