England 2024/25

[Ragey Erasmus]

Would be mighty p*ssed off if Underhill went for the Euros.

But equally wouldn't blame him if he did as SB's sent a raft of signals that he doesn't really rate him. RWC omission, no central contract etc. Plus he'll be 29 next year and with his injury record may not need too much persuading to cash in.

Especially considering he has consistently performed, hasn't had any drama I'm aware of and has been on of the few players who can really turn momentum when defending. It's a full on snub by Borthwick, especially so since Underhill has quite drastically improved his carrying the last year too.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Good that it's being managed and in co-operation between club and country. But the article doesn't really give great confidence that we'll ever consistently see him at the kind of levels everyone expects.

Tom Curry: England flanker has stem-cell therapy in bid to make 2027 World Cup

England flanker Tom Curry will miss Sale's Champions Cup clash with Racing 92 on Friday for a stem-cell procedure on his chronic hip condition.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[BPM]

Especially considering he has consistently performed, hasn't had any drama I'm aware of and has been on of the few players who can really turn momentum when defending. It's a full on snub by Borthwick, especially so since Underhill has quite drastically improved his carrying the last year too.

100%. We are simply a better team with him in the side and it would be gutting to lose him.

I would get it if he did cash in but it would be a huge loss to have arguably our two best flankers playing in France and ineligible for selection.

Even more so given the chronic nature of Curry's hip injury.

 

[Geordie]

Especially considering he has consistently performed, hasn't had any drama I'm aware of and has been on of the few players who can really turn momentum when defending. It's a full on snub by Borthwick, especially so since Underhill has quite drastically improved his carrying the last year too.

Maybe hes just accepting the new GOAT is coming through at Bath...Mr Pepper

 

[mikebrownsauce1512]

Would be mighty p*ssed off if Underhill went for the Euros.

But equally wouldn't blame him if he did as SB's sent a raft of signals that he doesn't really rate him. RWC omission, no central contract etc. Plus he'll be 29 next year and with his injury record may not need too much persuading to cash in.

If Underhill goes to France that would be a travesty, with the ideas you have suggested I wouldn't be so shocked if it happened and bath have such depth in the back row as well.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Maybe hes just accepting the new GOAT is coming through at Bath...Mr Pepper

I do wonder if Underhill had told Bath he was thinking about leaving and that's why they signed Pepper - it did seem a bit left field at the time considering they already had very good depth in the backrow

 

[Which Tyler]

Worth noting, he's got another year on his contract, and even Fissler thinks there's little to nothing in it.
That said, I wouldn't blame him at all for feeling that he doesn't fit with what Silly Bollox wants from a flanker (either side), and takes the money.

If he does go, I think England will suffer more than Bath, weirdly.
What he does is irreplaceable, but Bath have good cover for the position itself, which will take a couple of years to come online at an international level.
I don't think his potential departure has anything to do with signing Pepper - that was pure opportunism. The opportunity was there, so why not take it? Besides, IIRC, we signed Pepper before Sam re-signed (or at least, announced the one before the other)

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

If SB doesn't rate Underhill it's odd that's he's started him in so many games.

I'd also add that if SB doesn't rate underhill, it's SB that needs to go, not Sam.

 

[mikebrownsauce1512]

If SB doesn't rate Underhill it's odd that's he's started him in so many games.

I'd also add that if SB doesn't rate underhill, it's SB that needs to go, not Sam.

Why on earth would you not give Underhill a central contract though ?

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Why on earth would you not give Underhill a central contract though ?

Because his spreadsheet said no.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

No idea what this means, but assuming it is Sotutu or that league fellow

 

[Which Tyler]

No idea what this means, but assuming it is Sotutu or that league fellow

What does it say?

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

What does it say?

Chris Foy: England fans seeking some cause for optimism at the end of a disappointing year, stand by for an uplifting interview in the Mail tomorrow. Supporters of rival countries, take cover, there's trouble coming. Big trouble…

 

[Which Tyler]

TY, these days, twitter just takes me to the contributors wall, not to the specific post.

Just hope it's not just Slightly Befuddled doing a long, rambling interview about how everything is going to plan, and we'll be world beaters in 2027

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Probably Saudi investors, knowing the RFU

 

[Lé Ddanno]

Probably Saudi investors, knowing the RFU

 

[Geordie]

Phil Vickery is coming out of retirement....

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

David Duckham had been resurrected as one of those running zombies, currently being trained to score more and bite less.

 

[Reiser99]

I'm going with...they have cloned the 2003 WC team with each player at their prime.

 

[Becca]

I'm going with...they have cloned the 2003 WC team with each player at their prime.

If only !