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Tewkesbury is a weird area the constituency boundaries contain huge amount of rural area where most active Tories sit. The town's (Tewkesbury, Chruchdown, Bishops Cleeve and I think now Swindon Village) themselves are less inclined to vote Tory.
However its a got an opposition problem Labour flat out don't care and the LDs are too disorganised (I say this as a member we have an active small core). I simply don't have the free time to play a proper active role. Having seen in Cheltenham what is required to even closely lose an election when you had just won all county council seats in the ward it's easy to see how far away you to achieving that without proper exposure nationally.
Anyway Tewkesbury is up to 565.
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Yup - Laurence Robertson is also pretty horrible person.
When I first had dealings with him, he was... okay - about as helpful as you can realistically expect an MP to be; listened, sympathised, and did nothing much.
When my wife and I were racially abused after the Brexit vote, he was privately sympathetic, but refused to say anything public against racial abuse, or that the vote was NOT enabling racism - not in Parliament, not in his newsletter, not even a tweet. I pressed him a few times, before giving up.
I've written to him 3 more times* since then (about Brexit; and trying to be reasonably) and have received exactly the same email reply 3 times, most of which were outright lies (he claims that Brexit will add 15% to the UK's GDP within a year; improved healthcare provision with American expertise, more democracy is undemocratic, stop insulting people by saying they were uninformed / lied to etc) whilst not addressing a single thing that I'd raised with him.
When I met him face to face, without having anything particularly political to speak about, he just seemed so far up his own arse, smug etc, he left a bad impression even then.
He has earned a lot of disrespect from me - and is essentially untouchable locally as he wears a blue rosette (earning him 50% of the vote straight away), whilst the "not-tory" voters are evenly split 2 ways.
We've reached 900 signatures to revoke now
*ETA: Make that 4 now, I expect to receive the same reply again
When I first had dealings with him, he was... okay - about as helpful as you can realistically expect an MP to be; listened, sympathised, and did nothing much.
When my wife and I were racially abused after the Brexit vote, he was privately sympathetic, but refused to say anything public against racial abuse, or that the vote was NOT enabling racism - not in Parliament, not in his newsletter, not even a tweet. I pressed him a few times, before giving up.
I've written to him 3 more times* since then (about Brexit; and trying to be reasonably) and have received exactly the same email reply 3 times, most of which were outright lies (he claims that Brexit will add 15% to the UK's GDP within a year; improved healthcare provision with American expertise, more democracy is undemocratic, stop insulting people by saying they were uninformed / lied to etc) whilst not addressing a single thing that I'd raised with him.
When I met him face to face, without having anything particularly political to speak about, he just seemed so far up his own arse, smug etc, he left a bad impression even then.
He has earned a lot of disrespect from me - and is essentially untouchable locally as he wears a blue rosette (earning him 50% of the vote straight away), whilst the "not-tory" voters are evenly split 2 ways.
We've reached 900 signatures to revoke now
*ETA: Make that 4 now, I expect to receive the same reply again
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After last night's pathetic attempt to deflect blame and responsibility away from herself I had a feeling that MPs would respond by overwhelmingly rejecting MV3 - perhaps similar defeat to MV1 (+200). I then read that she may finally have the DUP on side which might be a crucial.
If she does lose again it'll be a case of which group she screws over as her final act before she resigns. Either she all screw over the MPs who didn't back her deal by allowing a No deal exit or she'll screw over the ERG and Brexiteers by applying for a long extension which extends the road for the next PM to kick the can down.
If she does lose again it'll be a case of which group she screws over as her final act before she resigns. Either she all screw over the MPs who didn't back her deal by allowing a No deal exit or she'll screw over the ERG and Brexiteers by applying for a long extension which extends the road for the next PM to kick the can down.
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Yes - last I saw was closing in on 620,000 and increasing by about 400 with every 5 second auto-refresh.
10.25am 20/02/19 petition opened.
8.00 pm 20/03/19 80,000 signatures.
8.35 pm 20/03/19 May makes her speech blaming everyone who isn't her, whilst claiming to be on the side of people she refuses to listen to.
6.00 am 21/03/19 passes 370,000 signatures the "Leave without a deal" petition has after 5 months.
8.40 am 21/03/19 passes 583,000 signatures to become www.petition.parliament.uk 's most signed petition.
9.00 am 21/03/19 site crashes with approximately 620,000 signatures
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10.03 655,000 and flying....
10:13 688,000
33,000 in 10 mins, 55 signatories a second....
I've seen shared widely by separate groups on every pit of social media I'm involved in which is extremely rare.
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Tewkesbury up over 1,000 (wish I'd waited to link my MP), it was bang-on 900 when I screen-shot it.
I guess the next target is 742,000 - which would double the No Deal petition.
I guess the next target is 742,000 - which would double the No Deal petition.
At the rate its going, it'll hit that before quarter to 11.
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Crashed again - didn't take long.
696,204
696,204
I'd say, you are realistically looking at targeting over a million signatures.
With many of the clowns that voted to leave either too old or too stupid to use a computer, its probably not surprising that it is outstripping the equivalent leave petition.
edit: It going onto beeb will only increase awareness and numbers that sign.
With many of the clowns that voted to leave either too old or too stupid to use a computer, its probably not surprising that it is outstripping the equivalent leave petition.
edit: It going onto beeb will only increase awareness and numbers that sign.
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Out of interest (and not particularly relevant here); the swing needed from 2016 would have been 634,751 going from leave to remain, which would have changed the result. Thought that passing that number was worth commenting on (and again if/when we reach 1,269,501)
Over 700k now with multiple crashes.
Reality is May's speech yesterday ****** everyone off the MP's and the public, probably Brussell's who already told her earlier in the day she can on;y have to end May IF she passes the deal.
Saying my deal or no deal wound a huge amount of people up as its quite clear nobody wants either and they aren't stupid enough to see her trying to ram this deal down peoples throats and think its anyone but her fault.
I think its quite clear to the people that the options are, no deal, renegotiate removing red lines or remain. You either get MP's to show which they'd prefer or have a referendum using preference voting.
As noted previously she actually doesn't have to do much to get parliaments support but she wants her negotiated deal and its killing all public opinion of the government.
Reality is May's speech yesterday ****** everyone off the MP's and the public, probably Brussell's who already told her earlier in the day she can on;y have to end May IF she passes the deal.
Saying my deal or no deal wound a huge amount of people up as its quite clear nobody wants either and they aren't stupid enough to see her trying to ram this deal down peoples throats and think its anyone but her fault.
I think its quite clear to the people that the options are, no deal, renegotiate removing red lines or remain. You either get MP's to show which they'd prefer or have a referendum using preference voting.
As noted previously she actually doesn't have to do much to get parliaments support but she wants her negotiated deal and its killing all public opinion of the government.
Theresa would do well to remember that the shelf life of a dictator typically expires fairly shortly after they are removed from power.
Whatever way the cards fall from here - she has fired up the rhetoric and someone on whatever side doesn't win is gonna be angry enough to do something*. She has put herself top of the list for those seeking anything or anyone to take out their anger on.
Thing is - I'm finding it hard to say "something stupid" - as at this point it is something that would not be entirely undeserved.
Whatever way the cards fall from here - she has fired up the rhetoric and someone on whatever side doesn't win is gonna be angry enough to do something*. She has put herself top of the list for those seeking anything or anyone to take out their anger on.
Thing is - I'm finding it hard to say "something stupid" - as at this point it is something that would not be entirely undeserved.
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777,000. Its like watching a cartoon fruit machine and much more fun than working.
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808k
Its not slowing down
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