A Political Thread

[ncurd]

It should be noted when talking about ID for voting they are specifically talking about photographic ID. You can actually get a mortgage (possibly buy a car I don't know if you have provide evidence you can drive, still some people don't have photographic versions of those) without photographic ID although the amount of hoops you jump through increases a lot, providing recent bills, wage slips and birth certificates.

Infact you'll be surprised about the amount of things you can do without photographic ID.

 

[Skylinerd1]

Because whilst voter fraud exists it doesn't exist in the margins to sway elections in the USA or the UK (which also doesn't require ID).

What ID requirements do is disinfranchise legal voters on a far greater scale as they don't own legal ID.

So why do republicans and conservatives want I'D laws and perpetuate fraud myths? Because the groups more likely to not have ID vote for their opposition not for themselves.

http://truthfeed.com/bombshell-stud...ulted-in-hillary-winning-new-hampshire/96757/

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Ah yes, a study by a tax dodging psuedo organisation founded by Steve Bannon, owner of Breitbart. Completely impartial... Also in their claimed methodology they ignore the fact that information on how someone voted is not stored and social security information cannot be shared without consent. That leaves 2 options, they have lied or have obtained that information illegally. Oops.

 

[The Jones Boy]

Volvo, owned by China, are going to be manufacturing only electric cars or hybrid electric cars on all new ranges from 2019, thats a year and a half away.
It looks like the rest of the world is looking to follow their lead to get away from the climate change contributing petrol-chemical pollution.
Interestingly, this will decrease the amount of oil needed on the world market significantly and the American hunger to control the oil supplies and transit will dwindle accordingly.
Very interesting times ahead.
Electric is the way forward.
Will the USA be ready to follow that route?

 

[Skylinerd1]

Volvo, owned by China, are going to be manufacturing only electric cars or hybrid electric cars on all new ranges from 2019, thats a year and a half away.
It looks like the rest of the world is looking to follow their lead to get away from the climate change contributing petrol-chemical pollution.
Interestingly, this will decrease the amount of oil needed on the world market significantly and the American hunger to control the oil supplies and transit will dwindle accordingly.
Very interesting times ahead.
Electric is the way forward.
Will the USA be ready to follow that route?

Dreaming. And climate change (man made) is being used as a political tool for everything these days its very hard to take seriously.
Trump was correct to withdraw from the complete BS paris climate accord.

 

[Skylinerd1]

Notice how CNN and co have gone silent on Muh Russia? This is why they know the gigs up. Now CNN is trying to sue Trump and fox because they know if this comes out they are gone burger.

"Pulitzer Prize Winning Seymour Hersh States Seth Rich Was WikiLeaks Source - In an audio recording by Big League Politics, Hersh confirms that Seth Rich had contacted WikiLeaks with emails from the leak. Hersh cites an FBI document as proof for his claim."



The DNC clearly killed Seth Rich.

Hannity was commenting on this last week sometime saying the **** is about to hit the fan in the next few weeks after having dinner with Trump. Trumps team know what was done and when it was done. They have all the evidence on this.

https://imgur.com/aOO1Og3

 

[McTallshort]

Dreaming. And climate change (man made) is being used as a political tool for everything these days its very hard to take seriously.
Trump was correct to withdraw from the complete BS paris climate accord.

So you dont think electric cars are a good idea then?

 

[ncurd]

Or it could be that CNN reports the news of the day and there hasn't really been any 'Russia White House' news for about a week instead the big stories have been about the sacking/resignation of two Communication Directors (he's been technically through 4 since last December), a Press Secretary and a Chief of Staff a mere 6 months into a presidency. Theres also the complete failure of removing he ACA.

See this is problem with people and the news they don't understand its not as agenda driven as they like think. It may change promineance and tone the news outlet uses to report it but if there is actually nothing to report of bigger stories are about they will report that instead.

 

[McTallshort]

Notice how CNN and co have gone silent on Muh Russia? This is why they know the gigs up. Now CNN is trying to sue Trump and fox because they know if this comes out they are gone burger.

"Pulitzer Prize Winning Seymour Hersh States Seth Rich Was WikiLeaks Source - In an audio recording by Big League Politics, Hersh confirms that Seth Rich had contacted WikiLeaks with emails from the leak. Hersh cites an FBI document as proof for his claim."



The DNC clearly killed Seth Rich.

Hannity was commenting on this last week sometime saying the **** is about to hit the fan in the next few weeks after having dinner with Trump. Trumps team know what was done and when it was done. They have all the evidence on this.

https://imgur.com/aOO1Og3

What team? They are all being sacked

 

[j'nuh]

Dreaming. And climate change (man made) is being used as a political tool for everything these days its very hard to take seriously.
Trump was correct to withdraw from the complete BS paris climate accord.

A catastrophic mass-extinction event that we know about and have the ability to prevent comes up a lot in politics?

SHOCKING.

 

[McTallshort]

A catastrophic mass-extinction event that we know about and have the ability to prevent comes up a lot in politics?

SHOCKING.

its all made up! according to the oil producers there is no such thing as climate change and there is no need to swap petrol cars for electric ones. Why would they lie? What do they have to gain? You will be saying next that the likes of Colt and Browning fund political lobbing against stricter gun control!

bloody fake news believing, liberal, SJW

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

its all made up! according to the oil producers there is no such thing as climate change and there is no need to swap petrol cars for electric ones. Why would they lie? What do they have to gain? You will be saying next that the likes of Colt and Browning fund political lobbing against stricter gun control!

bloody fake news believing, liberal, SJW

Get it right, you forgot libtard snowflakes. Got to let these leftie commie lovers know how intelligent we are with such witty responses!

 

[ncurd]

You lost get over it! You're being completely anti-democratic if you disagree with the result of an election and then actually carry on pointing out the flaws of the decision made. Everyone should shut up until the next election or even more prefreblyever again as this one victory clearly demonstrates we have superior ideology.

 

[The Jones Boy]

Dreaming. And climate change (man made) is being used as a political tool for everything these days its very hard to take seriously.
Trump was correct to withdraw from the complete BS paris climate accord.

I'll be buying a Volvo after 2019.
I'm not against any particular country so much as i am against the petro-chemical companies.
I'll vote with my wallet.
Thats how modern revolutions are won.

 

[McTallshort]

There is a question as to how the electic for the cars is produced but anything to reduce pollution is surely a good thing?

 

[The Jones Boy]

I'm having a serious array of solar panels put on the north facing roof of my house in Whangarei, I'll be looking to feed back into the grid on sunny days and also charge the car etc

 

[Skylinerd1]

I'll be buying a Volvo after 2019.
I'm not against any particular country so much as i am against the petro-chemical companies.
I'll vote with my wallet.
Thats how modern revolutions are won.

Its ok just completely ignore the fact that to make your spiffy all electric volvo more polutants were created in its manufacture than the average petrol car will create in its lifetime. But oh wait thats not what you wanted to hear....

And this is coming from somebody who owns a sport hybrid. Not that I give a crap as my other cars are a E55 AMG with no cats can easily use a tank of fuel every couple of weeks in that and an old navara also with no cats. When someone can prove to me without all the politically motivated virtue signalling BS that man made climate change is real and is not simply scientists wanting to keep their funding I might chuck a couple of cats in the merc! Until then you lot can virtue signal your little hearts out.

That all said electric cars are the future but not for the reasons you lot are claiming.

 

[Skylinerd1]

A catastrophic mass-extinction event that we know about and have the ability to prevent comes up a lot in politics?

SHOCKING.

Yes one Al Gore was saying we'd be all dead by now was he not? Swallowed up by the oceans and all that? Yep I might go buy me some beachfront property its looking pretty good right now.

 

[Skylinerd1]

So you dont think electric cars are a good idea then?

Not at all they are great. Id buy a Tesla or something decent like that for sure. They just arent the be all and end all to solving pollution issues YET!

 

[Which Tyler]

There is a question as to how the electic for the cars is produced but anything to reduce pollution is surely a good thing?

Unfortunately, electric cars will do nothing to reduce pollution - at best you can say that it reduces urban pollution.
IIRC (AKA I can't be arsed to look it up), then at current recycling tech; an electric car will produce about half against as much pollution as a petrol car, assuming a 10-year life span for each.
Lithium extraction is about the most polluting thing humans currently do (per kilo at least); I believe that lithium recycling is pretty bad too; and then the vast, vast majority of the electricity used to power that car comes from burning fossil fuels anyway.