A Political Thread

[ncurd]

WTF America - this is not the news I expected to wake up to.
Reminiscent of Brexit in Turkey's voting en masse for Christmas.

I don't understand how the exit poll got it so wrong. Last night before sleeping the BBC were assuring me Clinton was winning in key precincts in Florida and the numbers were looking very bad for Trump. I slept soundly.

Now the Maths is way off although I do.note nowhere called is differing to the map Ive been following up it wasn't supposed to be this close and Wiscontinue wasn't even.supposed to be in play....

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Yes America has never had am aggresive, corrupt womaniser at the top cough JFK cough

Trump isnt a womaniser though he's almost an admitted serial offender to sexual assault.

 

[McTallshort]

Dont remember him admitting to sexual assault

 

[McTallshort]

Didnt he promise a free trade agreement with the UK?

 

[McTallshort]

The blonde lady on the BBC is about to burst into tears!

 

[ncurd]

Dont remember him admitting to sexual assault

Sorry did you not hear the tape where he freely admits when your famous you can grab women by the genitals and they let you do it.

And don't dismiss it as things guys say, I've known guys talk about how they'd like to bang women but saying they can do as they please to them never.

 

[TRF_heineken]

Seems to me like Orange is the new black...

 

[ncurd]

Didnt he promise a free trade agreement with the UK?

yes but there's a big a difference between promise and what he actually can do. See Obama. Problem is the only thing he can do with impunity is control the military.

 

[McTallshort]

Well dont think that really matters now. Hes going to win by the look of things.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Yep, Brexit all over very again. People are ****** off at the establishment and really do hate Hilary.

 

[ncurd]

The problem as I see it and it does look to be the case the FBI have serious questions to answer about their non investigation into Clinton's emails. It tanked Clinton's numbers and even though Clinton may well win the popular vote it may have directly caused her to loose as they don't look to have recovered.

That won't happen though because the victor won't look into it.

 

[Which Tyler]

yes but there's a big a difference between promise and what he actually can do. See Obama. Problem is the only thing he can do with impunity is control the military.

But Trump has Congress on his side; both houses... and the Supreme Court. He has no checks and balances

 

[ncurd]

Yep, Brexit all over very again. People are ****** off at the establishment and really do hate Hilary.

Just wrote this on Facebook I've taken out the stuff which was a bitime more for the demographic ofor who I'm friend with,

Look I get the anger at establishment politics, it makes perfect sense you want to go against a system when you're at the lowest rungs of the ladder. I've been voting for the underdog my entire adult life who have no hope of forming a majority government and got shafted in a coalition one. But the answer is not to run to the Farages and Trump's of this world that's exactly what the Germans did in the 30's (yes Godwin's Law sue me).

The problem is I have zero idea how to win these people back to even convince them it's the wrong path. I'm the exact liberal 'Elite'(read middle classish) they claim to despise so much.

 

[TRF_heineken]

yes but there's a big a difference between promise and what he actually can do. See Obama. Problem is the only thing he can do with impunity is control the military.

True, but it seems like the Republicans will win the Senate too if all goes well. That would mean that Trump's administration would be able to pass more bills than when Obama was president.

 

[ncurd]

But Trump has Congress on his side; both houses... and the Supreme Court. He has no checks and balances

Moderate Republicans hate him though many of whom didn't support him or votes Hillary. They may well frustrate him a lot from the more insane policies. They'd probably rather in 4 years have a.moderate Democrat of Trump proves to be as dangerous as he's suggested.

Reports that Pennsylvania has gone Trump's way and that's pretty much the ball game folks.

****ity ****

 

[Groundhog]

Paul Ryan the Republican speaker has been openly hostile towards Trump on a number of occasions. This will be a republican heavy administration, but that will have nothing to do with Trump. He's just a leathery old figurehead with a big mouth for the next 4 (if he's lucky) years in my opinion.

 

[welshglory]

I never trust the media on politics anymore

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Just wrote this on Facebook I've taken out the stuff which was a bitime more for the demographic ofor who I'm friend with,

Look I get the anger at establishment politics, it makes perfect sense you want to go against a system when you're at the lowest rungs of the ladder. I've been voting for the underdog my entire adult life who have no hope of forming a majority government and got shafted in a coalition one. But the answer is not to run to the Farages and Trump's of this world that's exactly what the Germans did in the 30's (yes Godwin's Law sue me).

The problem is I have zero idea how to win these people back to even convince them it's the wrong path. I'm the exact liberal 'Elite'(read middle classish) they claim to despise so much.

The Elite/establishment have to sit up and listen and to adapt. Complacency has set in at the top and if nothing else this is the major walk up call they need.

 

[ncurd]

The Elite/establishment have to sit up and listen and to adapt. Complacency has set in at the top and if nothing else this is the major walk up call they need.

Running to the right is not the answer for many of these people. They'll likely get shafted by the system even more.


Hillary refusing to concede today/night it may not be over yet. Feel she is clutching at straws.

 

[TRF_heineken]

So am I one of the minorities here that think Trump will be the better president out of the 2 candidates??

 

[ncurd]

So am I one of the minorities here that think Trump will be the better president out of the 2 candidates??

interesting question.....honestly world policy I don't think it's good....domestic he might be better....

However here's the kicker for me the racial, religious intolerance and mysogistic language Trump has used justm eans it's impossible to vote for the guy in my book.