A Political Thread pt. 2

[ncurd]

Meanwhile Republicans in Congress are trying to pass a law to make "trump derangement syndrome" a recognised medical condition and are also trying to engage in constitutional convention, which could allow them to rewrite the Constitution.

Modifying the constitution requires a two third majority of both houses and two thirds of all states.

They can't just hold a meeting to change it they can provide amendments but they have to be ratified as per the constitution.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Modifying the constitution requires a two third majority of both houses and two thirds of all states.

They can't just hold a meeting to change it they can provide amendments but they have to be ratified as per the constitution.

The constitutional convention is a separate method to change it.

 

[Saintjay]

Which area do you think doesn't require context or nuance as an example?

Stranger rape, child abuse cases or where babies are murdered by there parents without any identified psychological issue etc.

Not sure you can fit context and nuance into some of those.

 

[McTallshort]

Meanwhile Republicans in Congress are trying to pass a law to make "trump derangement syndrome" a recognised medical condition and are also trying to engage in constitutional convention, which could allow them to rewrite the Constitution.

This hasn't come out of nowhere, this has all been years in planning. They are branding that who oppose these actions as having TDS. This is full on the act of a dictatorship, say you can do whatever you want and anyone who disagrees has a mental illness and can be put in an institution...

No doubt ***** like Chicago will either deny it or find it funny but this is a huge attack on democracy.

Project 2025. **** em. They made the mess let them lie in it

 

[ncurd]

The constitutional convention is a separate method to change it.

I can't find any basis for this.

 

[odw26]

Stranger rape, child abuse cases or where babies are murdered by there parents without any identified psychological issue

Is that not the nuance in these cases, though?

 

[ncurd]

I can't find any basis for this.

Found it

Under Article V of the U.S. Constitution, Congress is required to hold a constitutional convention if two-thirds of state legislatures (34 states) call for one.

do the the republicans have control of two third of state legislators?

List of United States state legislatures - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No but its slim.

 

[dirty harry]

Stranger rape, child abuse cases or where babies are murdered by there parents without any identified psychological issue etc.

Not sure you can fit context and nuance into some of those.

There is context and nuance in a vast majority of these, ASD levels, cultural differences, trauma responses, psych conditions, cycle of behaviors etc...

Most perpetrators have issues, I don't think I've come across a single case of well developed, no trauma, no ACEs, no ASD or low cognitive ability perpetrators committing a horrific crime.

Even to have the ability to perform some of these crimes a condition that causes lack of empathy is mostly present.

Not that I'm defended any of these, although there are some grey areas in law regarding some crimes, but there is definatly a growing consensus of a theory that victimisation causes perpetrator behaviour

 

[dirty harry]

Found it



do the the republicans have control of two third of state legislators?

List of United States state legislatures - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No but its slim.

Well isn't that interesting... you learn something new every day.

 

[ChicagoKid]

There is context and nuance in a vast majority of these, ASD levels, cultural differences, trauma responses, psych conditions, cycle of behaviors etc...

Most perpetrators have issues, I don't think I've come across a single case of well developed, no trauma, no ACEs, no ASD or low cognitive ability perpetrators committing a horrific crime.

Even to have the ability to perform some of these crimes a condition that causes lack of empathy is mostly present.

Not that I'm defended any of these, although there are some grey areas in law regarding some crimes, but there is definatly a growing consensus of a theory that victimisation causes perpetrator behaviour

I'm too busy and my children are too young to keep up with this, but you've made a lot of strong, nuanced points. I can tell we disagree substantially on many issues, but I would gladly buy you a beer and listen to your arguments. Foundationally, we believe in the same rights and that's what matters.

I've said for a while Americans see too much similarity with the UK because a.) language b.) cultural crossover. But the American tradition is much closer to France. If Macron survives, I see US/France relations getting much closer over the next 10 years and UK/US relations getting much worse. Trump/Vance don't respect Keir, but they like Macron.

But in the end, America's interests are in Asia. We must grow closer with Japan/Taiwan/South Korea/Australia/Singapore.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Found it



do the the republicans have control of two third of state legislators?

List of United States state legislatures - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No but its slim.

No but they are trying a work around by counting every state that has ever called for a convention. It's ridiculous as practically none were related to current events, with one being a call made back in the prohibition era. Many states have also withdrawn their historic requests specifically to counter this but republicans are arguing that they can't be withdrawn.

There is absolutely zero legitimacy to it but the fact they are even trying it shows they are trying once again to dismantle the Constitution.

 

[Saintjay]

There is context and nuance in a vast majority of these, ASD levels, cultural differences, trauma responses, psych conditions, cycle of behaviors etc...

Most perpetrators have issues, I don't think I've come across a single case of well developed, no trauma, no ACEs, no ASD or low cognitive ability perpetrators committing a horrific crime.

Even to have the ability to perform some of these crimes a condition that causes lack of empathy is mostly present.

Not that I'm defended any of these, although there are some grey areas in law regarding some crimes, but there is definatly a growing consensus of a theory that victimisation causes perpetrator behaviour

I agree in the vast majority you are right but not all. I've experience of two cases where there were no identified issues or evidence of past trauma. I can't nor do I want to go into detail but what they did was simply evil and cruel.

 

[ChicagoKid]

Well isn't that interesting... you learn something new every day.

Won't happen. 1.) They don't have the votes. 2.) If they did, it would devolve into a circus.

Passing an amendment is hard enough. We haven't had a real change to our constitution since 1971.

 

[ncurd]

Found it



do the the republicans have control of two third of state legislators?

List of United States state legislatures - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No but its slim.

Also found more ratification of a constitutional convention requires three quarters of states they can't just send who they want and agree

Article V reads in pertinent part (italics added):

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress.…

 

[dirty harry]

I agree in the vast majority you are right but not all. I've experience of two cases where there were no identified issues or evidence of past trauma. I can't nor do I want to go into detail but what they did was simply evil and cruel.

Evil and cruel to you, based on your perception of what societal norms and culture have taught you (I should probably say us as I'm sure we agree).

I obviously wouldn't ask any details and understand people would find this conversation very difficult especially if experienced being a victim of such. I probably see 40/50 perpetrators of these crimes per years and probably 100s of victims of these crimes, and it's amazing how many return as perpetrators. If I was a religious man (I am very not) I would conclude it all originated from original sin, and snowballs throughout the world.

I have the punishment vs treatment discussions with colleagues all the time, whether good and evil exist, or whether heinous crimes are just performed by 'broken people in some form or another... we never get to an answer, and we won't here either, we will drag each other down into the weeds and technicalities before thinking lesser of each other lol

 

[dirty harry]

Won't happen. 1.) They don't have the votes. 2.) If they did, it would devolve into a circus.

Passing an amendment is hard enough. We haven't had a real change to our constitution since 1971.

Whether they will or won't is immaterial, I didn't know this was an avenue, I find that fascinating.

 

[McTallshort]

I'm too busy and my children are too young to keep up with this, but you've made a lot of strong, nuanced points. I can tell we disagree substantially on many issues, but I would gladly buy you a beer and listen to your arguments. Foundationally, we believe in the same rights and that's what matters.

I've said for a while Americans see too much similarity with the UK because a.) language b.) cultural crossover. But the American tradition is much closer to France. If Macron survives, I see US/France relations getting much closer over the next 10 years and UK/US relations getting much worse. Trump/Vance don't respect Keir, but they like Macron.

But in the end, America's interests are in Asia. We must grow closer with Japan/Taiwan/South Korea/Australia/Singapore.

French ‘should be grateful to US they don’t speak German’, says Karoline Leavitt

White House press secretary's remarks come in the wake of French politician Raphaël Glucksmann teasing that the U.S. should return the iconic New York-based landmark

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Sour Patch Kid]

You ignored the linked story, so I'll link it again

Report: Jewish Tesla owner 'speechless' after Jewish Musk-hater finger-traces swastika on his Cybertruck

A Jewish man was "speechless" after reportedly seeing an Elon Musk protester draw a swastika on his Cybertruck in NYC. The incident comes amid a wave of anti-DOGE protests in the U.S.

www.foxnews.com

He exercised his right of free speech and got arrested, so your own citizens don't have the right if free speech do they?

He was placed in custody based on the complaint of a citizen who believed he was the victim of a crime. The incident was investigated, and the man was released without charge. No one infringed upon his free speech, let alone the government

 

[ChicagoKid]

French ‘should be grateful to US they don’t speak German’, says Karoline Leavitt

White House press secretary's remarks come in the wake of French politician Raphaël Glucksmann teasing that the U.S. should return the iconic New York-based landmark

www.independent.co.uk

Fact Check: True!

Ping me in 10 years and see if my prediction was wrong or right.

 

[McTallshort]

Fact Check: True!

Ping me in 10 years and see if my prediction was wrong or right.

Fact check false. Germany had never tried to change any language in it's conquered territories.