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A Political Thread pt. 2


Oops, trump lied.

Shocker.
And the sky is blue. Anyone with any common sense knows this, but his supporters hear what they want to hear and Trump has his excuse to implement his policies and weed out those not loyal to him.

Right now it's not the lie that matters, if it was he never would have been elected, it's what he does because of the lie.
 


Incredible how blatant all this is. No attempt to even give an appearance of legality...

Also **** the right wing and their staggering hypocrisy to hell. If anyone on the right supports this crap, or even is apathetic to it, you're just a straight up ****. There's no 2 ways about this any more. You are a ****.

Love the fear mongering in the ***le of the video.

Can't speak to any other nation but unfortunately the American government and its associated bureaucracy has become a fat, bloated machine that serves special interest groups and programs that are oftentimes expensive and not serving the American people. While Biden claimed he was going to be the most transparent administration in history this was not done. At least this is exposing the insane amount of wastage that is going on in our government which Elon is making available to the American people. Millions of dollars of taxpayer funds being siphoned to NGOs to facilitate illegal aliens, millions of dollars in sushi purchases for the pentagon and the effects of giving rats cocaine are just a few examples of how the American taxpayer is being taken advantage of. I do not see a problem with someone coming in who is not part of the government bureaucracy to see where our money is being spent. No different than a company performing an audit on another company that they bought. The fact that some of these Congressmen and Senators are losing it like they are makes me question what they are afraid of being exposed. Things like Medicare and social security are not being harmed.

The fact that he is not senate confirmed is meaningless, most government employees are not senate confirmed but have all sorts of access, not to mention most personal information can be gathered from an internet search.
 
Love the fear mongering in the ***le of the video.

Can't speak to any other nation but unfortunately the American government and its associated bureaucracy has become a fat, bloated machine that serves special interest groups and programs that are oftentimes expensive and not serving the American people. While Biden claimed he was going to be the most transparent administration in history this was not done. At least this is exposing the insane amount of wastage that is going on in our government which Elon is making available to the American people. Millions of dollars of taxpayer funds being siphoned to NGOs to facilitate illegal aliens, millions of dollars in sushi purchases for the pentagon and the effects of giving rats cocaine are just a few examples of how the American taxpayer is being taken advantage of. I do not see a problem with someone coming in who is not part of the government bureaucracy to see where our money is being spent. No different than a company performing an audit on another company that they bought. The fact that some of these Congressmen and Senators are losing it like they are makes me question what they are afraid of being exposed. Things like Medicare and social security are not being harmed.

The fact that he is not senate confirmed is meaningless, most government employees are not senate confirmed but have all sorts of access, not to mention most personal information can be gathered from an internet search.
My god you are ******* deluded. They have given an unelected maniac with no security clearance and with large outside interests that he has not divested from full and unfettered access to everyone's private information and all government spending and you think that's ok?

All the above is also completely illegal in US law, so you support rampant law breaking and the complete destruction of all checks on the power of the executive?

To claim Medicare and social security are not being harmed is laughable, just what exactly is preventing them from being harmed? Absolutely nothing.

You support corruption, you support criminal behaviour and you are a ****.
 
My god you are ******* deluded. They have given an unelected maniac with no security clearance and with large outside interests that he has not divested from full and unfettered access to everyone's private information and all government spending and you think that's ok?
Most importantly (for Musk) he's got everyone's confidential financial information. Not just citizens, but companies - like... his direct rivals.
He now has access to all the data that even Twitter and Facebook don't scrape from you.
He now has access to all the contracts signed between the government, and the likes of BlueOrigin, or Ford. Now, I wonder what possible interest Elon Musk could have in the details of government contracts with the likes of... his company's biggest rivals? Surely, it's purely innocent curiosity at worst.
 
Most importantly (for Musk) he's got everyone's confidential financial information. Not just citizens, but companies - like... his direct rivals.
He now has access to all the data that even Twitter and Facebook don't scrape from you.
He now has access to all the contracts signed between the government, and the likes of BlueOrigin, or Ford. Now, I wonder what possible interest Elon Musk could have in the details of government contracts with the likes of... his company's biggest rivals? Surely, it's purely innocent curiosity at worst.
And what's the betting the government cuts will hit his rivals and the contracts going to him... He already demanded that reporting on airline incidents be made purely through his platform and no other channels, which is insane.
 
And what's the betting the government cuts will hit his rivals and the contracts going to him... He already demanded that reporting on airline incidents be made purely through his platform and no other channels, which is insane.
Didn't he also forbid the recording / central database on accidents involving self-driving cars?
Or did I imagine that one?
 
The Hilary emails thing seems pretty minor compared to this.

It almost feels like American politics (at least as far as Trump and Musk are concerned) is now scandal proof.
 
Horrible school shooting in Sweden.

I was with one of my colleagues yesterday who has a child at the school where the stabbing took place. Physically safe and well, but who knows what emotional fallout there will be.

If it's a rite of passage for every generation to wonder what the hell the world is coming to then I'm in full wondering mode before I even start thinking about what's going on on a global scale.
 
My god you are ******* deluded. They have given an unelected maniac with no security clearance and with large outside interests that he has not divested from full and unfettered access to everyone's private information and all government spending and you think that's ok?

All the above is also completely illegal in US law, so you support rampant law breaking and the complete destruction of all checks on the power of the executive?

To claim Medicare and social security are not being harmed is laughable, just what exactly is preventing them from being harmed? Absolutely nothing.

You support corruption, you support criminal behaviour and you are a ****.
Most government officials are unelected, and he does have a security clearance, it was given to him during Biden's administration due to Space X and government contracts. And yes, I do think that someone needs access to and to look into government spending. I am sick of my tax dollars going to nonsensical programs and projects and what is the alternative? Sadly, our politicians, from both sides treat the federal government like a piggy bank for the dumbest things that they want. I don't want my taxes paying for gender studies in Iraqi universities or having USAID paying for abortions in other countries, it should go to things here.

Would you be ok with your government spending millions of dollars on sushi in a year? I can't imagine that too many people would be ok with that.

I do not think it is right for him to interfere with things where there is a conflict of interest for him, I don't agree with that at all.
 
Most government officials are unelected, and he does have a security clearance, it was given to him during Biden's administration due to Space X and government contracts. And yes, I do think that someone needs access to and to look into government spending. I am sick of my tax dollars going to nonsensical programs and projects and what is the alternative? Sadly, our politicians, from both sides treat the federal government like a piggy bank for the dumbest things that they want. I don't want my taxes paying for gender studies in Iraqi universities or having USAID paying for abortions in other countries, it should go to things here.

Would you be ok with your government spending millions of dollars on sushi in a year? I can't imagine that too many people would be ok with that.

I do not think it is right for him to interfere with things where there is a conflict of interest for him, I don't agree with that at all.
And how much of your tax dollars are good to fund a pointless mission to Mars? Or a trade war with your neighbours that results in the same thing as before?

You say your government is fat and bloated, do you every think to wonder how your country has remained the only global superpower in the last 80 years? Americas problem isn't the government it's the very rich paying nothing in tax and guess who is now making decisions on budget cuts? Oh that's right the richest man in the world because he's bound to have the interest of middle America as his top priority. Seriously you just voted in an Oligarch with serious drug dependency problems to slash your government spending on things that have kept your country on top of the world .....enjoy watching rockets go to Mars while your kids don't get an education.
 
Most government officials are unelected, and he does have a security clearance, it was given to him during Biden's administration due to Space X and government contracts. And yes, I do think that someone needs access to and to look into government spending. I am sick of my tax dollars going to nonsensical programs and projects and what is the alternative? Sadly, our politicians, from both sides treat the federal government like a piggy bank for the dumbest things that they want. I don't want my taxes paying for gender studies in Iraqi universities or having USAID paying for abortions in other countries, it should go to things here.

Would you be ok with your government spending millions of dollars on sushi in a year? I can't imagine that too many people would be ok with that.

I do not think it is right for him to interfere with things where there is a conflict of interest for him, I don't agree with that at all.
Most government officials have limits on what they can do an NO heads of department are simply installed by the president without Congressional approval. Do you think your average civil servant can simply demand access to all government information with no confirmation or security clearance? Stop being so dense. Musk is not simply some government official so stop with the bullshit equivalence.

No, he doesn't have security clearance and the people working for him certainly don't. He has limited clearance related to the industry he worked, not a blanket clearance to access everyone's records.

But you're not sick of your tax dollars being funnelled towards the Trump family personally? You're not sick of your tax dollars being funnelled towards Musk that he then uses to buy his way into power? You think being a bit tired of government overspend means it's ok to **** all over the law and the Constitution and give a bunch of oligarchs unrestrained control over all aspects of government, many of whom have a vested interest in enriching themselves off it. Honestly, how the **** do you think that these people will do anything to make your life better rather than simply finding a way to enrich themselves further? No a single person in an important government position has any reason whatsoever to give a damn about improving the welfare of your average citizen, the vast majority are the cause behind things getting worse.

Would you be ok with government deciding that it can withold funding based on political allegiance? Would you be ok with government suspending elections? Do you value the integrity of democratic systems less than a bit of government waste? What makes you think anything they do will reduce waste rather than just slashing and burning anything they think they can then profit off?

He is a businessman who still runs his business with sizeable government contracts and he has now illegally obtained access to all the financial information his rivals would have submitted, along with the details of every citizen in the country. What happens if Musk decides someone who is mean to him should have their personal information leaked or maybe there is some unfortunate "accident" and it's deleted? You think that's beyond the realm of possibility? Bearing in mind everything he's done IS ALREADY ******* ILLEGAL! He's ALREADY breaking the law, as is Trump. Not just any laws, the very Constitution itself has been crumpled up and tossed aside and you ******* supported this. All because you think there is a bit of government waste!?

Last time Trump was in office, he exploded the deficit and this time he demanded the debt ceiling be removed entirely. He is demanding Congress be made powerless. He is ignoring that Congress allocates funding, he is ignoring that the heads of departments are approved by Congress, he is ignoring that the "department" Musk heads has zero oversight and legally doesn't even exist, he is ignoring the law on firing attorney's general and you somehow are happy with all this!?

This is why I say you are a ****.
 

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