A Political Thread pt. 2

[Ragey Erasmus]

That's a previous comment, your not being honest...

I criticised Biden, never mentioned Trump, never promoted Trump, never gassed Trump in that comment, I was discussing Biden, which you seemingly cannot do without the addition to Trump...

Hunters drug problem is a failing of Biden, to compare it to bad Trump actions is minimising the action itself.

Your starting to convince me TDS is a medical issue that needs resolving hahahaha

But let's start with a clean sheet (and usually I only ask this of Democrat ((or should I say popular view points)) sycophants):

You believe that the aafghanistan withdrawal, that armed the Taliban to an incredible level, that was devised and rejected under Trump, initiated under Biden, was mere stupidity, and Trump would have enacted it anyway?

Is that what you are honestly saying? Because I find that stance wildly niaive

You literally list Trump and Biden in your comments before saying they are as bad as each other, I even quoted your comment, it's literally right there for everyone to see. You very clearly said they are as bad as each other and I don't agree, I think Trump is vastly worse because he is malignant, not just stupid.

To put Hunter's drug problem on Biden is pretty ******* sick tbh. People turn to drugs for a whole load of reasons and Hunter lost his brother as well as Joe losing a son. That has a toll but you want to portray that as some personal failing of Joe?

And yet you can't dispute any of what I'm arguing, just go "hurr durr TDS". The threat Trump poses is very real, the guy literally didn't accept the result of an election and was apathetic to the death threats being made against Pence as the seat of government was stormed ffs. That is not something that should be swept under the carpet. Trump is malignant, it's clear as day.

Rejected by Trump!? The agreement was signed in February 2020 and troop numbers had already been reduced from 16,000 to less than 2,500 by the time Biden took office. If Trump rejected it, why was it already well under way with a deadline already agreed? As commander in chief, he simply could have stopped it if he rejected it so why didn't he? That's right, he only rejected it AFTER it was well under way and he had someone else to blame. What you said there is a straight up lie. Biden even pushed the deadline back to give more time but the only way to prevent disaster by that point was to reverse the withdrawal and stay in Afghanistan. So yes, Trump would have enacted it anyway because it had been in progress for over 10 months by the time Biden took over.

 

[dirty harry]

I've said it before that I think Rogan is just the most impressionable person in the world and it's hilarious that he's got the biggest interview podcast on earth. If the Dems started convincingly out "Alpha Maling" MAGA, he'd switch back in a heartbeat.

The issue is not him switching, the issue is him not being utilised and going after him...

Harris could have easily won him over, CNN tried to ruin him, and other Dems have condemned him as right wing.

The way the world consumes media has changed, and Dems are late to the party, Trump 1 highlighted this badly, and they didn't seem to learn that lesson come 2024

 

[Welsh Exile]

I couldn't disagree with this more, he's not a centrist he's an outspoken Bernie bro, who is very socially left. He has become a Trump voter out of necessity and he doesn't like it.

He isn't the original conversationalist, but he's the most consistent, and he has had some super interesting guests on his show noone seems to care about.

He likes drugs, he loves a conspiracy and he doesn't take things too seriously.

I've listened to a few of his shows, off the top of my head Lutrell, Park and Davis were very interesting people who noone was really interested in. Surviving a sealnopweration, north Korea and transitioning clansman are fascinating stories

You say he's a Bernie bro and then say he votes Trump but doesn't like it. Sounds a bit silly mate. He's a libertarian dipshit basically. No doubt he's had very interesting people on and he's also platformed some conspiracy theorists. As I say, I don't really listen to him.

 

[dirty harry]

dude, you need to take a step back, repeatedly saying others need to think critically when you're so blindly defending things so many people consider mad, is the most blatant example of non critical thinking ive seen on this thread

you're not talking to a small group of conspiracy fanatics, much like the lift needs to accept there are huge parts of the world community that want to hear what the right has to say...the reverse is still true, the argument "we won so everyone is on board is a fallacy" nearly half the US population is ******...so thinking hundreds of millions of people that have similar thoughts have all drunk the cool aide....and need to "think critically" is a little deranged

See now I've said none of this...

Again I pointed out at the start of my comments, I take 1 position on free speech and I'm labelled MAGA. Hahaha

I will say it one more time for the slow, I AM NOT A TRUMPER! I'm happy to criticise Trump for his God complex, dealings, failings and corruption, I'm just not a seamster like a lot of you who view yourself above anything right wing, call anything I don't like conspiracy, or ignore Biden and Dem failings because 'but Trump'.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

The issue is not him switching, the issue is him not being utilised and going after him...

Harris could have easily won him over, CNN tried to ruin him, and other Dems have condemned him as right wing.

The way the world consumes media has changed, and Dems are late to the party, Trump 1 highlighted this badly, and they didn't seem to learn that lesson come 2024

The issue is him switching. I pointed out his hypocrisy where he changed his tone depending on who he thought made a mistake and you just laughed it off, despite claiming that is a standard you use yourself. This is the **** I'm on about, double standards and hypocrisy.

We both agree that if you switch who did a bad thing, that shouldn't impact your judgement, I give you an example of literally exactly that happening and you ditch that principle straight away. Do you or don't you think that it should apply equally? If yes, why do you not agree with Joe Rogan being called out for exactly that?

 

[Kiwiwomble]

See now I've said none of this...

Again I pointed out at the start of my comments, I take 1 position on free speech and I'm labelled MAGA. Hahaha

I will say it one more time for the slow, I AM NOT A TRUMPER! I'm happy to criticise Trump for his God complex, dealings, failings and corruption, I'm just not a seamster like a lot of you who view yourself above anything right wing, call anything I don't like conspiracy, or ignore Biden and Dem failings because 'but Trump'.

and thats why you might need to take a step....because its very much coming across like you support trump and his actions. for example, its not a case of "but trump"....hes currently the president.....so discussion him is valid, what you and other have done is when people have critiqued him....you come in with "but biden"...and "but obama"...theyre gone, he won, they cant hurt you any more...we're talking about trump and current politics

 

[dirty harry]

You say he's a Bernie bro and they say he votes Trump but doesn't like it. Sounds a bit silly mate. He's a libertarian dipshit basically. No doubt he's had very interesting people on and he's also platformed some conspiracy theorists. As I say, I don't really listen to him.

He voted Sanders, and has had him on the podcast to promote him, while refusing to have Trump on for years.

Mate if you don't know Rogan just say that, it's fine. He can hardly vote for Sanders in 2024.

As I said, I'm not a huge fan, I just listen to interesting guests on occasion, I thought the CNN doctor was also a fascinating watch after the CNN debacle.

I find it difficult to believe Rogan is anything other than just a dude who loves MMA, mind bending substances, comedy and conspiracy though, if he turns out to be a Russian asset then fair play he's convinced me, but I don't see it by a mile, and I mis trust just about everyone

 

[Welsh Exile]

He voted Sanders, and has had him on the podcast to promote him, while refusing to have Trump on for years.

Mate if you don't know Rogan just say that, it's fine. He can hardly vote for Sanders in 2024.

As I said, I'm not a huge fan, I just listen to interesting guests on occasion, I thought the CNN doctor was also a fascinating watch after the CNN debacle.

I find it difficult to believe Rogan is anything other than just a dude who loves MMA, mind bending substances, comedy and conspiracy though, if he turns out to be a Russian asset then fair play he's convinced me, but I don't see it by a mile, and I mis trust just about everyone

I mean I did say that. I don't really listen to him. But seems silly to use someone's past voting record rather than looking at current in terms of what beliefs they are promoting, no?

 

[dirty harry]

The issue is him switching. I pointed out his hypocrisy where he changed his tone depending on who he thought made a mistake and you just laughed it off, despite claiming that is a standard you use yourself. This is the **** I'm on about, double standards and hypocrisy.

We both agree that if you switch who did a bad thing, that shouldn't impact your judgement, I give you an example of literally exactly that happening and you ditch that principle straight away. Do you or don't you think that it should apply equally? If yes, why do you not agree with Joe Rogan being called out for exactly that?

Wait what? I havnt seen a comment off you claiming Rogan switched up something. How could I possibly have laughed anything off hahaha

Post a link of the incident and I can go check it out, I don't consume enough Rogan to catch him being deceitful.

 

[Welsh Exile]

He voted Sanders, and has had him on the podcast to promote him, while refusing to have Trump on for years.

Mate if you don't know Rogan just say that, it's fine. He can hardly vote for Sanders in 2024.

As I said, I'm not a huge fan, I just listen to interesting guests on occasion, I thought the CNN doctor was also a fascinating watch after the CNN debacle.

I find it difficult to believe Rogan is anything other than just a dude who loves MMA, mind bending substances, comedy and conspiracy though, if he turns out to be a Russian asset then fair play he's convinced me, but I don't see it by a mile, and I mis trust just about everyone

Also, I didn't say he was a Russian asset.

 

[Saintjay]

He voted Sanders, and has had him on the podcast to promote him, while refusing to have Trump on for years.

Mate if you don't know Rogan just say that, it's fine. He can hardly vote for Sanders in 2024.

As I said, I'm not a huge fan, I just listen to interesting guests on occasion, I thought the CNN doctor was also a fascinating watch after the CNN debacle.

I find it difficult to believe Rogan is anything other than just a dude who loves MMA, mind bending substances, comedy and conspiracy though, if he turns out to be a Russian asset then fair play he's convinced me, but I don't see it by a mile, and I mis trust just about everyone

Not sure previous voting and support has much to do with anything tbh.

Vance, Musk etc were all very different years ago.

 

[AlRums]

Minnesota senator arrested in underage sex sting

Justin Eichron, 40, was caught by Bloomington Police Department detectives after he allegedly arranged to meet up with a 17-year-old girl to have sex.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Welsh Exile]

Not sure previous voting and support has much to do with anything tbh.

Vance, Musk etc were all very different years ago.

Yeah, it's wasn't long ago that chancer Vance correctly labeled Trump as Americas Hitler.

 

[dirty harry]

and thats why you might ned to take a step....because its very much coming across like you support trump and his actions. for example, its not a case of "but trump"....hes currently the president.....so discussion him is valid, what you and other have done is when people have critiqued him....you come in with "but biden"...and "but obama"...theyre gone, he won, they cant hurt you any more...we're talking about trump and current politics

Mate I honestly beleive you havnt read any of my comments, I've criticised both Biden and Trump throughout, just because you've caught me criticising Biden, and not mentioning Trump in that btw, you've assumed like everyone else that I'm MAGA.

I will spell out my position to you very clearly...

I dislike pretty much all politicians, whether they are corrupt God completed arsholes, senile old ferrets, socialist claiming weasels, or populist puppets. Everything they do is self serving and generally not in the publics interests.

So when I criticise Biden, it isn't to gas Trump, because I'm happy to criticise him also, it's not my fault the only opinion here seems to be Biden is good because Trump is worse, that's not how the world works, both can be bad in differing ways

 

[dirty harry]

Not sure previous voting and support has much to do with anything tbh.

Vance, Musk etc were all very different years ago.

And?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Wait what? I havnt seen a comment off you claiming Rogan switched up something. How could I possibly have laughed anything off hahaha

Post a link of the incident and I can go check it out, I don't consume enough Rogan to catch him being deceitful.

Unfortunately I can't find just the clip by itself without commentary too but that one at least puts the clip at the start of the video so you can just ignore the commentary after. To be fair it's more the other commentator than Rogan himself that does the complete double standard but Rogan still claimed that making that sort of comment would mean in any other job you are done, but didn't follow that when it was revealed Trump said it.

For the record, I'm not using this to attack Rogan more broadly, just using it as an example of people who switched their view the second they thought Biden did something to being told it was actually Trump. I know Rogan is a Bernie supporter and not some far right activist. Another example is the Trump supporter who thought it was outrageous that Biden would dodge the draft by pretending to have bone spurs and went on a big rant. When she was told it was Trump, not Biden, she immediately switched to making excuses for it.

 

[dirty harry]

Yeah, it's wasn't long ago that chancer Vance correctly labeled Trump as Americas Hitler.

Maybe he fell on the side of cynical asshole?

Vance is one creepy bugger, he spouted a lot of nonsense for attention back in the day, and now he has that attention he seems he'll bent on making Trump look rational lol

 

[Welsh Exile]

Maybe he fell on the side of cynical asshole?

Vance is one creepy bugger, he spouted a lot of nonsense for attention back in the day, and now he has that attention he seems he'll bent on making Trump look rational lol

He's a snake oil salesman with no real conviction in his beliefs because he has none. As evidenced by his shameful U turn as he only cares about power. Just my opinion obviously.

 

[Kiwiwomble]

Mate I honestly beleive you havnt read any of my comments, I've criticised both Biden and Trump throughout, just because you've caught me criticising Biden, and not mentioning Trump in that btw, you've assumed like everyone else that I'm MAGA.

I will spell out my position to you very clearly...

I dislike pretty much all politicians, whether they are corrupt God completed arsholes, senile old ferrets, socialist claiming weasels, or populist puppets. Everything they do is self serving and generally not in the publics interests.

So when I criticise Biden, it isn't to gas Trump, because I'm happy to criticise him also, it's not my fault the only opinion here seems to be Biden is good because Trump is worse, that's not how the world works, both can be bad in differing ways

read every one, hence why i dont get to post much as there are pages and pages every morning, thats why i said it, i dont believe thats how you mean to come across, but it is to me anyway, hence the take a step and read the room, if people that have been criticising him have been disagreeing with you...then you might have come across like your defending him

i kind of feel a critical thinker would know how to step back, re-evaluate, course correct

 

[dirty harry]

Unfortunately I can't find just the clip by itself without commentary too but that one at least puts the clip at the start of the video so you can just ignore the commentary after. To be fair it's more the other commentator than Rogan himself that does the complete double standard but Rogan still claimed that making that sort of comment would mean in any other job you are done, but didn't follow that when it was revealed Trump said it.

For the record, I'm not using this to attack Rogan more broadly, just using it as an example of people who switched their view the second they thought Biden did something to being told it was actually Trump. I know Rogan is a Bernie supporter and not some far right activist. Another example is the Trump supporter who thought it was outrageous that Biden would dodge the draft by pretending to have bone spurs and went on a big rant. When she was told it was Trump, not Biden, she immediately switched to making excuses for it.

Before I have a look at thos, and I will research the clip in full, I hate Brian Tyler Cohen, that is one dangerous dude!!! The amount of times I've seen him manipulate clips for his narrative, I'm sure I read he also was one of the paid influencers who went to DC to promote dems as well? Anyone who nails their flag to a team that hard can't be trusted, regardless of which side they're on. I'd put him on par with someone like Candice Owens