A Political Thread pt. 2

[Which Tyler]

The collapse of Lehman brothers just happened as I entered the workforce permently and I've never known it to be good. Its also readily apparent to me just how much advantage those 5+ years older than have had in workplace with greater opportunity earlier in their careers to advance (due to expanding economy and therefore jobs) most businesses I've worked at have been stagnant and grow through acquisition rather than work either through more orders or developing new products. This makes opportunities to advance your career through that growth less as your acquiring the new workforce through buying them rather needing to employ them.

The change is really quite remarkable.
I'm 48, but due to mental health issues, I graduated in 2003 rather than 2000 - and that difference already makes a HUGE difference.
I had 3 "good" years - on rookie wages.
In late 2006 I branched out on my own, and opened my own business (putting every penny I had into it, and plenty of pennies I didn't have). Business plan had the loans paid off in approximately 3 years.
7 months later, Tewkesbury disappeared under water and essentially hit recession a year before the rest of the world.

It took about 5 years before earnings returned to what they had been after 6 months; whilst my debt had increased substantially (negative equity is a hell of a thing).
I'm due to pay off the last of those start-up loans (well, the last of the loans used to pay off the loans) this Autumn - which will be nice.

I will never be able to retire.

 

[Which Tyler]

 

[Saintjay]

GMP definitely move quicker than Labour with Abbott. Details now sent to HMRC.

 

[ncurd]

GMP definitely move quicker than Labour with Abbott. Details now sent to HMRC.

Bug shocker that one, Rayner being released. Right-wing rags making a mountain out of a molehill again. The amount they claim she dodged was in the grand scheme of things tiny.

Unlike say PPE fraud.

 

[Gavin]

So the Labour Party appears to be a welcome place for Natalie Elphicke but not Diane Abbott

 

[Reiser99]

Tbh, while it's morally wrong, it's probably the right decision politically.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Tbh, while it's morally wrong, it's probably the right decision politically.

This, they haven't done themselves any favours morally and make themselves a bit of an easy target but Abbott is an absolute moron. She's been hard done by but let's not pretend they are losing any sort of talent here.

 

[Reiser99]

Also lol at Conservatives asking Labour to publish Raynor's tax advice. Despite the fact that the police, HMRC and the local council have all said there is nothing to investigate, they still want to make it into an issue. How desperate are they?

 

[Saintjay]

So the Labour Party appears to be a welcome place for Natalie Elphicke but not Diane Abbott

Who needs morals when you've got an election to win. Just be less morally bankrupt than the other lot, or it's the wrong political decision Labour just made by having her back.

Who knows what's going on....most reporting she's back as a Labour MP. Possibly on a deal she doesn't run again.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

So the Labour Party appears to be a welcome place for Natalie Elphicke but not Diane Abbott

Diane Abbott not barred from standing as Labour candidate in general election, Sir Keir Starmer says

Britain's first black woman MP was suspended from the party last year over comments she made about Jewish people not facing racism.

news.sky.com

Weird situation

 

[Saintjay]

Diane Abbott not barred from standing as Labour candidate in general election, Sir Keir Starmer says

Britain's first black woman MP was suspended from the party last year over comments she made about Jewish people not facing racism.

news.sky.com

Weird situation

There's talk of if she stands down they'll give her a seat in the Lords.

 

[ncurd]

There's talk of if she stands down they'll give her a seat in the Lords.

TBF as the first black woman elected to parliament its probably warranted (as much as there is a reason to have an unelected chamber)

I think it's a mess but probably because no one really knows what's going on and everyone needs to have a hot take.

 

[Saintjay]

TBF as the first black woman elected to parliament its probably warranted (as much as there is a reason to have an unelected chamber)

I think it's a mess but probably because no one really knows what's going on and everyone needs to have a hot take.

Not overly keen on you get a seat in the Lords as a bargaining chip for standing down, or following an in deph investigation into racism. Then again her treatment/investigation has not been great and she's definitely had more abusive in her life than I'll likely ever face in mine. Whole things a mess as you say.

 

[ncurd]

Not overly keen on you get a seat in the Lords as a bargaining chip for standing down, or following an in deph investigation into racism. Then again her treatment/investigation has not been great and she's definitely had more abusive in her life than I'll likely ever face in mine. Whole things a mess as you say.

Yeah I think studies showed she gets exponentially more racist and misogynistic abuse than any other MP.

An Amnesty International report found that Abbott was the subject of almost half of all abusive tweets about female MPs on Twitter during the 2017 election campaign, receiving ten times more abuse than any other MP.

I'm not a fan of her at all back from her days on This Week with Andrew Neil and Michael Portillo. But it doesn't warrant anything she receives.

 

[ncurd]

Starring to feel Abbott or someone else close to her is deliberately feeding the press on this one now, to cause damage.

The fact the party had made no official statement on it just has the stench of it. They need to settle this quickly.

Should be a minor bump in the campaign but it's detracting from actual policy announcements.

 

[ncurd]

Litreally as I post this Abbott tells the BBC she's bared from standing. Still no statement from Labour suggesting my theory abive was true.

 

[McTallshort]

I'm sure Diane Abbott is a very nice person but she's a chuffing liability and Labour don't need to risk anything. She also represents the old far left labour that people associate with Corbyn who lost an election to Teresa May

 

[ncurd]

I'm sure Diane Abbott is a very nice person but she's a chuffing liability and Labour don't need to risk anything. She also represents the old far left labour that people associate with Corbyn who lost an election to Teresa May

She's well liked by the real lefties though. It's not a good to have this kind of row that your activists balk to. Likely good for general polling though.

Corbyn was a little diffrent he showed no effort to atone for his mistakes which were more egregious.

 

[ncurd]

Sounds like Streeting completely blindsided on morning chat shows. I'm kinda ****** now he's supposed to be out championing getting the pledge to get wait times down to a certain level in 5 years (a proper concrete measureable goal) and instead everyone's gonna be talking about one candidate.

 

[Saintjay]

Starts 27th June. Interesting how Reeves and Streeting respond with Fiscal rules and waiting times targets.