It's not just the US though (and they don't need US weapons to wipe out Palestine) and even if it was are you saying Joe Biden really is complicit in this genocide? That he doesn't care, is he really genocide Joe to you or is it that they're doing such a good job at disguising the genocide in a legitimate war (unless you believe Isreal doesn't have a right to exist and therefore does not have a right to defend itself) that Biden, every US politician and pretty much every western country in the world has been fooled into thinking that it's likely that a genocide is taking place.
Yes he's complicit, as is Von der Leyen and whoever the British PM is this week. They've all had ample chance to condemn what is going on and p it more pressure on Israel to deescalate the situation and haven't. They don't need US weapons to wipe out Palestine but they do need them to flex muscles to their neighbours. The same neighbours that the west have a vested interest in having a presence in the Middle East to keep straight.
I really do find it staggering that the only clear evidence we've seen on an actual genocide was on October 7th by Hamas. That's what a genocide looks like, there's no room for doubt when it come to "did they mean to burn those children, rape those women and behead those civilians" and then all you have to do is look at Hamas charter to see how genocidal they are.
I can't understand this. Conservative estimates are that 70% of victims are women and children. It's been proven Israel have lied about the number of Hamas soldiers they've killed also. If you don't think this is indiscriminate killing, I don't know what to tell you. Netanyahu is the one rejecting peace offers currently.
7 October was terrible but Israel knew about it for over a year before it happened and were warned by Egypt days before. They chose not to defend themselves then but are "defending themselves" now by destroying Palestine and killing tens of thousands of innocent people. They sacrificed their own to do this.
And finally, holding Israel to the same standards as terrorists who only exist in their current state because of Israel's continued ethnic cleansing and restrictions to human rights really shows the level Israel is operating at.
We're obviously never going to agree but I feel some words just mean different things now but maybe I'm the one who's out of touch and perhaps Isreal will get found guilty of genocide and all the things you say.
I doubt they'll be found guilty of genocide unless they really **** up their diplomacy. The UK haven't been found guilty for genocide during the great hunger, nor have the Belgians in the Congo because the UN requires an intent for killing people (******* bizarre) and "it's far more convenient these people are dead than alive" doesn't cut it. I think Israel's intent is far beyond that anyway, there's a clear pattern since the foundation of the state and they were ethnically cleansing before Hamas ever existed.
And I take it the millions of Israeli citizens are all in on this pretence as well?
The ones who democratically elected Netanyahu? Yeah, **** em. Particularly the law of return ones, double **** them. Of all the issues I have with that state, law of return is the biggest.
I think Palestinian support for what Hamas on Oct 7th has grown. Some as high as 3 in every for 4 people. It's probably as high for people in Israel and what they are doing. I also have my cocerns it's a belief by Hamas that it's of there interest to prolong this war because of the pressure the world puts on Israel. Without any concern for the plight of the people they represent in Palestine.
That's why i couldn't stand with one side or march for one. Both appear to be indiscriminaly harming children and that's my line in the sand.
Like most i hope they sort it out. The world just seems more concerned about one upmanship on who's the most evil rather than getting a grip.
Whilst external support for Hamas is unacceptable I can understand why there's Palestinian support. These people have nothing and are living in constant fear of death, they've no access to any news source either. They're in a desperate situation and see the men with guns fighting and think it's for them.
Netanyahu has said there'll be no peace until Hamas are wiped out. Hamas have offered a solution and its not been considered because of this. Zero tolerance doesn't work to stop guerilla warfare, look at Afghanistan, Netanyahu knows this as well as anyone.
Yup this entire crisis/war have two side hellbent of wiping the other of the map and simply don't care about the collateral damage.
Its not a genocide though they aren't looking to completely wipe out a race or religious sect.
I think ICC is right to bring war crime charges to both sides.
National groups are included in the UN definition of genocide.
Now, apply that to Isreal who firstly pulled out of Gaza in 2005 (not very hell bent back then) but even now has what, killed 5% of the population (not even that) and that is largely down to Hamas using human shields and imbedding themselves into a civilian population and hiding underground.
Hamas living and hiding in civilian communities is not an excuse to bomb the shot out of them. The British army purposefully killed civilians in NI on a scale dwarfed by what Israel are currently doing and are rightfully vilified for it.
