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A Political Thread pt. 2

Bada-Bing! said:
All the more reason for peeps to walk or cycle for short journeys and cut down on car use.
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It's not the people who use their car to nip to the shops who are concerned about fuel being a bit more expensive.

Being a service engineer for the central UK, that doesn't help me.

I mean, it would make cities quieter and cut down on my travel time, but doesn't help what I spend on fuel.
 
BrokenWing said:
It's not the people who use their car to nip to the shops who are concerned about fuel being a bit more expensive.

Being a service engineer for the central UK, that doesn't help me.

and cut down on my travel time, but doesn't help what I spend on fuel.
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Disagree I would bet a lot of fuel is wasted on short journies which could instead replaced by walking and cycling. It might not apply to you per Se but let's face it this country is just built for the cars and the government is too **** scared to try and turf peeps out of them because it's a vote loser and also the fuel duty and Vat they get from the fuel.

Peeps in general are too lazy and easier just to jump into the car for anything from going down the local shops to dropping off their kids at school.

Not only that but peeps are buying bigger cars which take up more room on the road, are heavier and no doubt contribute to the state of roads and need more fuel - the gas guzzlers. Don't feel sorry for them in the slightest.

I mean, it would make cities quieter
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Er yeh that is the point.
 
Bada-Bing! said:
Disagree I would bet a lot of fuel is wasted on short journies which could instead replaced by walking and cycling.
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You would be disagreeing with a point I never made.

I didn't say fuel isn't wasted. I said those people don't care that fuel is more expensive. Add another 10p to a litre and they would still drive their car 1/2 a mile to the shops.
 
BrokenWing said:
You would be disagreeing with a point I never made.
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Well then I still don't feel sorry for car drivers in general. I am afraid we do need to shift from the car in general. There just isn't the space on the roads for the cars lorries traffic. And It brings out the worst in peeps and a lot of it isn't needed. In the mean time you're gonna have to suck up the high prices at the fuel pump.

The only other way I can see when they eventually need to replace fuel duty and VAT
is them bringing in some kind of per mile charge useage and then give tax relief to those making business purposes.
 
If the Government was serious about tackling inflation then surely it would be targeting supermarkets and banks who have been profiteering from the situation i.e. fleecing everyone by pushing up prices (regardless of whether or not their CoGS have gone up) and the gap/lag between mortgage and savings rates. A windfall tax for oil companies, supermarkets and banks would slow down the transfer of wealth from working people to big business and their shareholders. No chance it would happen under this shower.
 
People are always going to drive while public transport is such a **** show in this country,
If I wanted to take public transport on my in-office days it would take about three times as long (20min bus, 25min wait, 53min train, 20min walk, and get me to work 35min early because the later train means getting there late) and cost more than my fuel+parking+car payment
and that's if it even turns up - I just went on trainline to see how much the hybrid worker trainpass is and saw that all trains on my line are delayed this morning
 
This whole the Government blaming the supermarkets for lack of competition and passing the cut is a deflection from the fuel price paid at the pump being approximately 60% tax and the billions in revenue they take in.

Apparently 25% of UK's carbon emissions comes from vehicular traffic.

WFH has in last 3 years has shown me what a waste of time and money it is to commute to the office.
 
Bada-Bing! said:
This whole the Government blaming the supermarkets for lack of competition and passing the cut is a deflection from the fuel price paid at the pump being approximately 60% tax and the billions in revenue they take in.
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I mean, they can both be true.

The government cut fuel duty by 5p a litre, which the supermarkets failed to pass on... So that will be added again at some point.

The supermarkets ARE overcharging customers.

There are lots of things you can level at the government, fuel duty was around long before them and no other government has made an effort to make it any better.

I get your point about the environment and discouraging drivers from unneccessary travel, but punishing others by making them pay more isn't an answer, and why should the supermarkets profit in the cause of the environment?
 
BrokenWing said:
I mean, they can both be true.

The government cut fuel duty by 5p a litre, which the supermarkets failed to pass on.

The supermarkets ARE overcharging customers.

There are lots of things you can level at the government, fuel duty was around long before them and no other government has made an effort to make it any better.
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And the annual finance acts by successive governments? We have the longest tax code/legislation in the world.
 
Bada-Bing! said:
Won by case after complaining to the FO. Think that this was in the news probably helped. Banks are allowed to get away with it though
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Not just banks is it. The current list of people trying and successfully screwing us over is:

Water companies
Energy companies
Supermarkets
The Government.

And they really don't care that they are doing it either! Remember when such places were chasing your custom or vote? Those happy days of a consumer led economy. Now it's "if you don't like it **** off....oh wait your can't can you"
 
McTallshort said:
Not just banks is it. The current list of people trying and successfully screwing us over is:

Water companies
Energy companies
Supermarkets
The Government.

And they really don't care that they are doing it either! Remember when such places were chasing your custom or vote? Those happy days of a consumer led economy. Now it's "if you don't like it **** off....oh wait your can't can you"
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Well in the case of banks it was about shifting savings. Banks are allowed up to 15 working days to move your savings to another bank. That was the issue in my case as my fixed rate had ended and it plummeted to 0.8% at a time BOE interest rates were 4.25%.

A transfer which should take instantaneously under faster payments or CHAPs ended up taking 5 days, where I earned zilch interest. But it was earning interest for someone else. This is the type of thing banks get away with because often savers don't complain.

Edit: I would add I have found the following pretty useless:

The ICO
The Legal Ombudsman- these are lay people with no real understanding of how Solicitors screw over clients and for me there to protect Solicitors unless they are doing something really egregious.
 
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Smug *******

Also for all the whinging about "lefty media", the far right are getting away with breaking the rules every day with no accountability.

 
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For any that have heard, Farage was going round saying his bank account had been closed, he was being persecuted by the WOKE and was being forced out of the country. The latest updates seem to indicate that, as usual, he was lying. It turns out he lost his exclusive account because it had a minimum threshold for how much you had to keep in there to have the account (which he fell below) and that he was offered another standard account the same as us plebs have.

But something something "man of the people" something "WOKE!" something. Really can't understand how anyone could think privately educated, city banker, politician, media presenter = man of the people and not absolutely drenched in establishment.
 

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