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A Political Thread pt. 2

Now we get to play the poltical game of was the PM fined or not.

And get to the bottom did the PM fail to lead by example by following harsh restrictive laws he set during a public health crisis and then did he knowingly mislead parliament about that. The answer to both of these is yes we've seen the evidence and its a joke its taking this long.
 
TRF_Olyy said:
Well I for one am very surprised....
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That anyone in government could tell the truth, especially an unpalatable one...

Maybe he wants to be sacked so that he can launch his leadership bid?


Anyway - here's Patel, going one worse (though I'm not sure what court case where, so I can't verify, though Sharma's qualifications seem legit):
 
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Can it be a coincidence that people are being ramped into anger about the renaming of a cheese based meal, which occured two years ago, but is only being reported now, than the confirmation that the law was broken at No 10 parties?

www.dailymail.co.uk

Now the Ploughman's lunch is cancelled

The Tors pub in Belstone, Devon offers the 'ploughperson's lunch' for £12.50 and it contains all the ingredients from the classic Ploughman's despite the gender-neutral rebrand.
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A 'woke' Devon pub has been slammed after taking the Ploughman's lunch off the menu and rebranding it 'ploughperson's'.
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Gavin said:
Can it be a coincidence that people are being ramped into anger about the renaming of a cheese based meal, which occured two years ago, but is only being reported now, than the confirmation that the law was broken at No 10 parties?

www.dailymail.co.uk

Now the Ploughman's lunch is cancelled

The Tors pub in Belstone, Devon offers the 'ploughperson's lunch' for £12.50 and it contains all the ingredients from the classic Ploughman's despite the gender-neutral rebrand.
www.dailymail.co.uk
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Major reach here.

Don't think Boris was sitting there like "you know what chaps? People won't care about the parties if we plant this here story about a shitty attempt to stir up controversy as a free advert for a pub multiple days before the Met announce anything and that will save me".
 
Bless.
They're all hunting so hard for something to be offended by, and they've settled on what some pub in Devon calls "cheese & pickle with bread"
The word "snowflake" comes to mind.


As for the timing - nothing to do with Boris, everything to do with the Daily Heil
 
Daily Mail probably knew about it 2 years ago and were saving it for when it was needed to hide another story.

On Sunak, he's apparently comfortable with the choices he's made. I wonder if that's because he's a millionaire who's married to a billionaire and his pathetic excuse for help doesn't mean diddly squat to him.
 
I see the Russians are being forced to withdraw around Kyiv and Chernihiv, so they're now pretending it's a sign of good faith for the negotiations...
 
On the fines, apparently the Met won't say who has been fined or for what incidents. However, haven't police forces across the country previously spoken about party fines under covid lock downs? Anyone remember exact examples?
 
It sounds like Russia is trying to find a face saving exit strategy. They were on the verge of having their arses handed to them by the Ukrainians and then conveniently claimed the first phase of the war was over. I suspect it reached a point where their only hope of making more progress was to use chemical or local WMDs and they decided against it - fearing another global backlash and possibly one within Russia not to mention a potential showdown with NATO.

Now they claim to be backing off from Kiev and making it seem like it was it was part of today's peace talks. All in all a botched invasion attempt. I read somewhere that the bill for all the damage to Ukrainian infrastructure is $560bn. I wouldn't lift any sanctions until they've footed the bill to rebuild the country and compensate the families who have lost loved ones.
 
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"It was always inevitable if you change the exact nature of your trading relationship with the EU, that was always going to have an impact on trade flows,"

Ah would you look at that, project fear becoming project reality again.
 
Suggestions Russia has dropped demands for denazification, demilitarisation (the big one for me) and EU membership. I think it sensible to trust pretty much zero that comes out from the Kremlin until we see it in action (e.g. withdrawal) but if they can accept EU membership and Ukraine building up its military then perhaps a deal is possible.

The difficulty is I cannot see how Ukraine can agree to give up any of the land lost in 2014, never mind the land lost in the past month. So it hinges on whether Putin can sell Ukrainian neutrality as some amazing achievement that has saved Russian lives from an imminent invasion.
 
Bruce_ma gooshvili said:
Suggestions Russia has dropped demands for denazification, demilitarisation (the big one for me) and EU membership. I think it sensible to trust pretty much zero that comes out from the Kremlin until we see it in action (e.g. withdrawal) but if they can accept EU membership and Ukraine building up its military then perhaps a deal is possible.

The difficulty is I cannot see how Ukraine can agree to give up any of the land lost in 2014, never mind the land lost in the past month. So it hinges on whether Putin can sell Ukrainian neutrality as some amazing achievement that has saved Russian lives from an imminent invasion.
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From what I've read Ukraine might accept the loss of Crimea, but not the loss of the Donbas region. Issue is without Donbas it becomes almost impossible for Putin to sell this as a win.

I suppose he could claim denazification by saying the Nazi element was eliminated, but still a hard sell.
If they don't take Donbas or it's not an *independent* state then what was all that fighting for?
Only victory would be Ukraine agreeing not to join Nato.
 
People involved with talks with Russia being advised not to eat or drink anything they have not kept secure themselves. It's ridiculous how blatantly the Russian regime goes around poisoning people and just denies it like anyone believes them. I can't even see what they gain from these seemingly random and pointless poisonings.
 

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