A Political Thread pt. 2

[Ragey Erasmus]

What? Not Fox News.

Has that man ever not looked confused at the mere concept of reality?

 

[Reiser99]

Boris Johnson gets summaries of sensitive government material via WhatsApp

Campaigners are challenging the use of messaging apps to discuss government business in the High Court.

www.bbc.co.uk

We already know that the government conducts business via WhatsApp and private emails/phones, but it's not acceptable. It completely avoids accountability and especially with this government's track record for lying and corruption, transparency is more important than ever.

 

[Amiga500]

What? Not Fox News.

Hardly.

Tucker Carlson is quite possibly a paid Russian agent with the sh!te he's coming out with.

 

[ncurd]

Grayling really trying had to win the least competent minister in history award.

 

[ncurd]

cost of living crisis now, tax cut in 2 years!

Oh he cut off £3.50 off my tank of fuel that was costing crica £65 two years ago but now costs £82

He's also done some doddling with National Insurance anyone know what the difference is for most people considering he's still putting the rates up?

I appreciate he's a in a **** situation but it feels underwhelming,

 

[General Melchett]

Grayling really trying had to win the least competent minister in history award.

He's got some stiff competition with the likes of Gavin Williamson and co but I reckon Grayling probably edges it. No doubt he'll end up with a knighthood or a peerage.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

cost of living crisis now, tax cut in 2 years!

Oh he cut off £3.50 off my tank of fuel that was costing crica £65 two years ago but now costs £82

He's also done some doddling with National Insurance anyone know what the difference is for most people considering he's still putting the rates up?

I appreciate he's a in a **** situation but it feels underwhelming,

Yeh going to read up on it later. Right now it's all headline stuff. But the devil's in the detail.

 

[ncurd]

Every time they mention a Brexit Benefit it turns out its another lie

 

[Reiser99]

Every time they mention a Brexit Benefit it turns out its another lie

Already said I'm sure 0% VAT on anything is a Brexit Lie. The E.U directive is if you charge 'any VAT' then it has to be a minimum 5%. However, countries are completely free to charge 0% as much as they like.

 

[Which Tyler]

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

He's got some stiff competition with the likes of Gavin Williamson and co but I reckon Grayling probably edges it. No doubt he'll end up with a knighthood or a peerage.

He'll end up as PM at this rate.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

If the NI change means those earning less than £35k will pay less NI then I think that should be acknowledged as good thing. Still no sign of a significant policy change to help prevent us propping up gruesome regimes via oil and gas.

This particular dog whistle is a mahoosive vote winner for the hard right in places like Hungary where idiots even more unpleasant than Boris make even firmer remarks. I like to consider myself a reasonable person but I'm perplexed by the priority given to "trans rights" (which impact directly on a very small proportion of people, an estimated 300 in Scotland (out of 5.4 million) according to the pro change SNP government) while other rights that impact on a huge proportion of the population such as euthanasia, get little to nil political push behind it. It doesn't strike me as reformists boxing clever on the topic, particularly when you take a stance that infuriates right wingers and feminists alike (which is quite the achievement).

I've always thought that if you over extend on a policy before the public are comfortable with it, you risk a backlash that is contrary to your intentions. If trans folk think life is hard now, give it 20 years when the hard right is in full control of the media and judiciary. If we don't look out we'll contribute to a poisoned political environment where more entrenched LGB rights (which impact on a much larger 2-10% of the population) get eroded by a succession of populist reactionary muppets who have made political capital out of this topic.

Trans folk can currently change their gender identity. They can have surgery. They can have chemical interventions. They are not a politically oppressed minority group. They are a very misunderstood, marginalised, often very unhappy and alienated minority group. The argument for making gender change quicker / simpler and for interventions at younger ages can probably be better made when society is more aware of the existence of trans folk as society continues its gradual liberalisation. Rushing ahead with policy before society is softened up to change is probably going to be detrimental to trans rights in the long run.

"Softly, softly, catchy monkey" would be my stance on this one.

EDIT: I should clarify the 300 figure is the estimated number of people in Scotland who would seek to change their gender identity.

 

[General Melchett]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Rishi Sunak sounds exactly like Will from the Inbetweeners?

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that Rishi Sunak sounds exactly like Will from the Inbetweeners?

Sadly no GIF for Rishi yet on here, so Starmer laughing is closest one without putting an Asian GIF and being accused of being racist.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

If the NI change means those earning less than £35k will pay less NI then I think that should be acknowledged as good thing. Still no sign of a significant policy change to help prevent us propping up gruesome regimes via oil and gas.

Yes, as far as I can tell a good thing. But why align the class 1 primary threshold for employees to Personal allowance from 6 July and not from 6 April?

 

[General Melchett]

Sadly no GIF for Rishi yet on here, so Starmer laughing is closest one without putting an Asian GIF and being accused of being racist.

I'm sure Boris would approve of the Will GIF.

 

[Reiser99]

If the NI change means those earning less than £35k will pay less NI then I think that should be acknowledged as good thing. Still no sign of a significant policy change to help prevent us propping up gruesome regimes via oil and gas.

Martin Lewis talking to Andrew Castle summed it up quite well.

It's a positive step, but nowhere near enough.

 

[ncurd]

Yes, as far as I can tell a good thing. But why align the class 1 primary threshold for employees to Personal allowance from 6 July and not from 6 April?

Yeah I think I read somewhere it's 180 quid a year so 15 quid a month for those earning 20k.

Its a good thing but not something be sung from the high heavens.

 

[ncurd]

Trans folk can currently change their gender identity. They can have surgery. They can have chemical interventions. They are not a politically oppressed minority group. They are a very misunderstood, marginalised, often very unhappy and alienated minority group. The argument for making gender change quicker / simpler and for interventions at younger ages can probably be better made when society is more aware of the existence of trans folk as society continues its gradual liberalisation. Rushing ahead with policy before society is softened up to change is probably going to be detrimental to trans rights in the long run.

"Softly, softly, catchy monkey" would be my stance on this one.

EDIT: I should clarify the 300 figure is the estimated number of people in Scotland who would seek to change their gender identity.

There are some who would argue they are a politcally oppressed minority, I would suggest looking through the hoops one has to go through someone who wishes to transition. Or just want legally their identity to change pre transition. And for adults fully consenting and you open up the children can of worms.

And not all trans people do transition through chemical or surgical means and identify as something between the genders. They still must legally conform to the gender binary in all official documentation.

It also doesn't help that now homosexuals have virtual legal equality in what they want the 'values minded' have decided 100% to enact their bigotry towards trans people instead.

I have a few trans aquintences/friends all but 2 just really want live their lives without bigotry. The two who don't are extremely loud in their presence and I've seen the fightback you describe. It isn't pleasant for anyone. Seen it sour an entire community. And there are failures on all sides from apart from a few well meaning people.

I've had the conversation you spoke of at the time I was running events for community it went fine. Unfortunately the person just said they'd continue being loud and I guess they had a point. If you feel continuously attacked for qho you are wouldn't you be loud about it.



I think I said all I want to say on this topic, I don't think it helps "white men" deciding what's best for group they have little understanding of. Just to pass on their experiences/conversations and not pass judgement on the rights or wrong on any conclusions.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Yeah I think I read somewhere it's 180 quid a year so 15 quid a month for those earning 20k.

Its a good thing but not something be sung from the high heavens.

This graph summarises how much extra peeps who are employees will need to pay in NI.

Aligning NI and Personal allowance thresholds are well overdue. Well from a simplification POV.

Rishi was always on a hiding to nothing with tax especially given the deficit built up because of the Pandemic and servicing the debt. And with election year coming up next year or year after, the so called reduce Basic rate to 19% is his rabbit out of the hat to bribe the electorate to vote Tory again.