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A Political Thread pt. 2

If it's the former it's showing lack of trust in the front line command structure if it's the latter it's NATO lending the Ukrainian army their intelligence
 
*Rumours* of around 12k Russian fatalities and double that wounded.

That's pushing toward a 25% casualty rate of the initial forces committed.

**If** true, can't be far away from combat ineffectual - across whole army groups.
 
*Rumours* of around 12k Russian fatalities and double that wounded.

That's pushing toward a 25% casualty rate of the initial forces committed.

**If** true, can't be far away from combat ineffectual - across whole army groups.
Would take that figure with a whole shaker full of salt. However Russians have almost certainly sustained enough casualties for it to have already started having a significant impact on their already not very effective army. Coupled with logistics problems and losing high ranking officers, they could really be in trouble if this drags on much longer. It then becomes who will break first in the face of **** conditions, the Russians or the Ukrainians. I'd say Ukrainian morale is better but Russians still have the advantage in terms of equipment. If the Russians can't find a way to stop the shipments from the west then I'd actually back Ukraine to win a prolonged conflict, something I did not think at all when this started.

If Russia successfully closes the supply routes, I think they will be able to grind it out though.
 
Russian news website briefly reported 10k dead and 16k wounded yesterday. Now saying they were hacked

"On March 21, access to the administrator interface was hacked on the Komsomolskaya Pravda website and a fake stuffing was made in this publication about the situation around the special operation in Ukraine.

Inaccurate information was immediately removed."
 
If the Russians can't find a way to stop the shipments from the west then I'd actually back Ukraine to win a prolonged conflict, something I did not think at all when this started.
Ukraine were always going to drive the Russians out - whether you count that as a win or not is a different matter.

It is just a question of weeks, months, years or decades until the Russians have to give up with unacceptable losses.
 
I'm happy to be wrong about Russian progress this month, but talk of them stalling on all fronts is flat out misinformation which calls into question any assessment of Russian losses also. I am very surprised how they quickly took Kherson then completely stalled in the southwest and reportedly abandoned the offensive going northwest (now sending those forces northeast up the river it seems and finding less resistence).

The latest map shows Russia is about 50 miles short off cutting off the entire Luhansk region, plus more. This is an area significantly larger than Wales (the international size comparison of choice) and due to NATO decisions about supplies there'll be no prospect of breaking that encirclement. Russia can just manage that with checkpoints and destroy anything that sticks its nose outside of a town. Ukraine will have to decide whether to cede ground and try and pull out those forces to fight another day or let them be encircled. The Russian focus appears to be to encircle both Donetsk and Luhansk, so perhaps that is a clue of an endgame for them. But Putin has total control and the health and prosperity of his people are simply not priorities, so he may be happy with a multi year war. I think he is having the time of his life using all his little toys, hoodwinking his compatriots and trolling people he doesn't like. I get the sense it is all he has to live for these days.


I still think things can develop very badly, very quickly. But bumping off military top brass can only help in slowing things down
 
American intelligence says 8k dead, tops, which I'm more inclined to believe than Ukraine's totals

Still a huge loss of life regardless, and will undoubtedly shake morale
 
American intelligence says 8k dead, tops, which I'm more inclined to believe than Ukraine's totals

Still a huge loss of life regardless, and will undoubtedly shake morale
Thats essentially coalition forces total accross Afghanistan and Iraq including post invasion. With a smaller invasion force size (which is probably part of the problem).
 
Liie just for more 'modern war' comparisons the American's lost 58,281 over the entire Vietnam War that last the best part of two decades and that was a complete disaster.
 
Yay sendherback is trending on twiitter

I love this ******* shithole of a country.
 
Please don't let that be about Nazanine.
It's about Nazanine isn't it?
This fucking cuntry!
It started yesterday because she had the gall to say she didn't think loosing 6 years of her life was good enough by 5 foreign secretaries. The first which whos careless mouth led to worsening her situation has been promoted to prime minster by the general public.
 
Do I have to admit it? but yeah
You're WHAT?
crowd riot GIF
 
But Britain isn't a racist country...
Na its not a race thing its just a twitter being a ******* weird place where if you don't either love the Tories or love the EU and Labour unconditionally you are evil and deserve to die (or be sent back to prison because you aren't a card carrying tory apparently)

I actually hate twitter so much but its good at what it tries to do, which is create ****** up things like this....
 

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