A Political Thread pt. 2

[Leonormous Boozer]

Good way to ensure the quality of your services takes a massive and instant dive.

Scumbags

 

[McTallshort]

Sacked all staff, replaced with agency and said the sacked staff are welcome to apply to be agency staff - absolute scum move

Even had the agency staff sat in buses at the docks ready to go straight on after everyone was binned off - Union workers refusing to leave, good on them

How the hell can they do that?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

How the hell can they do that?

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/workers-rights-and-the-new-eu-withdrawal-agreement-bill/

What has happened to the Employment Bill?

The Government has now offered an explanation for the absence of an Employment Bill in the 2021 Queen’s Speech...

www.mills-reeve.com

As far as I can see, the bill to address this was never passed so yeah, that seems to be your reason for how the hell they can do it. Unless you mean morally, in which case it's because they are money grabbing ********. There's your Brexit bonus, we are no longer bound by the EU rules and the government conveniently keeps finding reasons to not pass the bill meant to replace it.

 

[ncurd]

Isn't TUPE still a thing within our own statutes? Which prohibits anyone from doing this.

This will a long fight in the courts.

 

[Amiga500]

In other news, nice to see the Bank of England decide that it'll be good for people to have even less money to heat their house or put food on the table when they have to send more of their wage to pay their mortgagoe.

Are they really so fukking thick they cannot separate inflationary pressures from international factors to those from internal pressures - and in the 21st century have no more precise instrument than interest rates? Mental*.

[Or is this just another way for the 'haves' to ensure the drawbridge is firmly pulled up behind them?]


*you'd think they'd have thought of at least one of the following:
- a BoE managed inflation tax on luxury goods.
- separation of interest rates from a single "base" to a few grades, such as "commercial", "homeoccupier", "houseowner" [the latter being buy-to-let].
- adjusting their formulae to balance the purchasing power of the average family, 'cos right now, its all about costs, with the assumption that "if people are spending too much**, then they have too much money to spend***". Which is ridiculous when you think about it.

**on buying milk, bread and heating oil/gas.
*** and it obviously has nothing to do with the price of grain skyrocketing due to 40% of the world's grain supplies being from Ukraine/Russia, or 8% of the world's oil coming from Russia etc.

 

[McTallshort]

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/workers-rights-and-the-new-eu-withdrawal-agreement-bill/

What has happened to the Employment Bill?

The Government has now offered an explanation for the absence of an Employment Bill in the 2021 Queen’s Speech...

www.mills-reeve.com

As far as I can see, the bill to address this was never passed so yeah, that seems to be your reason for how the hell they can do it. Unless you mean morally, in which case it's because they are money grabbing ********. There's your Brexit bonus, we are no longer bound by the EU rules and the government conveniently keeps finding reasons to not pass the bill meant to replace it.

Shocking. Some of the crews in Hull are refusing to leave and thier replacement crews are sat on the dock waiting to board. The people of Hull are not renowned for being a forgiving, friendly bunch. This could get very messy

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Isn't TUPE still a thing within our own statutes? Which prohibits anyone from doing this.

This will a long fight in the courts.

Yes, when one employer business takes over or buys out another. I don't think this applies to P&0 in this case. But they'd have to go through redundancy process surely?! Those jobs still exist and just replacing like for like.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Been reading about this and apparently it's quite common for offshore employees to be employed under a different office than land based employees - P&O ships are registered in Cyprus so the ship staff (even if just hopping across the English channel) don't come under UK employment laws so they can do what they want with them

A similar thing happened with Irish Ferries rebasing themselves out of Cyprus a number of years ago

 

[Bada-Bing!]

That is true. There are ways around it. I recall going on a cruise on one of the sister ships of the Costa Concordia and there were mainly Philippine staff. However, the company were trying to exploit the mainland Chinese market and getting them to train up Mandarin speaking staff to take over their jobs. It's pretty horrible what they can and will do.

 

[Reiser99]

The amount of negative publicity this will cause though must be an issue. Yeah cheaper staff, but they will surely be hit by people using other companies.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

The amount of negative publicity this will cause though must be an issue. Yeah cheaper staff, but they will surely be hit by people using other companies.

Tbh if the prices are cheaper, that'll be enough of a long term draw to mitigate any losses whilst people are upset in the short term. Yes they are ***s, but I assume they knew it would be bad publicity and accounted for that

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Suggestion that a fifth of all Russian generals active in Ukraine have been killed (4 out of 20 inside just 3 weeks). I'd imagine there is an American hand in that level of performance given the way they assassinated the Iranian military commander. That won't be helping the Russian military chain of command any.

War in Ukraine: Fourth Russian general killed - Zelensky

The news raises questions over why senior Russian officers are getting so close to the fighting.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Reiser99]

Truly awful story came out yesterday.

A 15 year old black girl was subjected to a strip search at her school whilst on her period in 2020 by 4 police officers after her school suspected she had drugs because they thought she smelt of weed.

Black girl strip-searched by Met officers at London school tells of trauma

Fifteen-year-old says incident has left her wanting to ‘scream, shout, cry or give up’ every day

www.theguardian.com

(JoB on the issue.)

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/abuse-child-q-potent-reminder-police-should-not-schools-1522274 (article about other issues with police in school)

Honestly, how can any pretend that the police aren't institutionally racist?

 

[Which Tyler]

Honestly, how can any pretend that the police aren't institutionally racist?

TBF, it was the school that called them in.
They then acted ridiculously and highly inappropriately.

Elsewhere:

It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you!

And, I normally wouldn't bother with this - probably even if it was verified elsewhere, as we all know the Russians are targetting civilians, and that that is a war crime, but...

That's Chinese state-affiliated media reporting on Russian war crimes - that's gotta be significant

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Ukraine conflict: Putin lays out his demands in Turkish phone call

Russia's president revealed his peace conditions in a phone call - the BBC spoke to someone who listened in.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Bada-Bing!]

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Bye bye RT. Not that I watched.

 

[Reiser99]

Bye bye RT. Not that I watched.

I know it's not completely the same, but why are the views of Russia being censored yet we still have people able to blatantly lie and mislead people in other areas such as covid or domestic politics. I personally do believe that Russian TV is nothing more that state propaganda, but Britain and the West's attitude towards Russia and the conflict is definitely hypocritical.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

There are levels of hypocrisy. Don't me wrong it exists in our society but not to the same extent as Russia.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Tbh **** RT but they should have been allowed to keep embarrassing themselves, the response should have just been to call out their lies more constantly and publicly