[2021 Six Nations] France vs Wales (20/03/2021)

[ncurd]

Ireland were going for the slam in 2003 also and lost at home. Shite match, opposition were ***** to our president, **** you for being inaccurate and making me bring it up...

We lined up in wrong place, the Irish got their knickers in a twist, made her walk on the grass and MJ further cemented himself as a world rugby legendary captain.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

We lined up in wrong place, the Irish got their knickers in a twist, made her walk on the grass and MJ further cemented himself as a world rugby legendary captain.

And a ****

Would love to see what the reaction to Wales ******* in a long standing tradition of England's would be, I doubt AWJ would be legendary!

 

[ncurd]

And a ****

Nah he had already cemented that, from his perspective it was essentially some random guy trying to play some weird mind games.

The real question about was if it was customary just to line up on the side you practiced on and Ireland had to have a side cause it was 'lucky' why didn't the teams just practice on those sides in first place?

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Nah he had already cemented that, from his perspective it was essentially some random guy trying to play some weird mind games.

The real question about was if it was customary just to line up on the side you practiced on and Ireland had to have a side cause it was 'lucky' why didn't the teams just practice on those sides in first place?

It's not lucky, our president meets the teams before every international in Lansdowne, soccer or rugby and greets the oppo first, it goes back decades. Johnson was just straight wrong here, there's no debate there.

I don't really care, it was 18 years ago and I was 8. I'd definitely back the move if Ireland did something similar to the same effect but it was insulting whether intended or not. I'd also guess the IRFU ****** it up and just assumed England would now at the same time, useless shower.

 

[ncurd]

It's not lucky, our president meets the teams before every international in Lansdowne, soccer or rugby and greets the oppo first, it goes back decades. Johnson was just straight wrong here, there's no debate there.

I don't really care, it was 18 years ago and I was 8. I'd definitely back the move if Ireland did something similar to the same effect but it was insulting whether intended or not. I'd also guess the IRFU ****** it up and just assumed England would now at the same time, useless shower.

I mean she could of greeted our team first still I assume she can walk anti-clockwise as opposed to clockwise? Or are the Irish like Derek Zoolander?

To this day I have zero idea why the Irish made her walk on the grass like it was the most stupid response to it.

 

[g6mcg]

Wales did it in 2005 and 2019. But as you said that one away game is Italy so it's practically a bye anyways.

Wales were the first to do it in 2005 and for a while that was held up as being particularly impossible. Ireland (2009), England (2016) and Wales (2019) have done it more recently, all with Italy as an effective bye.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I mean she could of greeted our team first still I assume she can walk anti-clockwise as opposed to clockwise? Or are the Irish like Derek Zoolander?

To this day I have zero idea why the Irish made her walk on the grass like it was the most stupid response to it.

Traditions don't make sense half the time, couldn't telly you why but it's always been that way. BOD should have got the team out to fight them off really, a real inexperienced reaction, doubt Wood would have put up with it.

I'm getting real de ja vu of having this argument off the back of the exact same error re 100% records in home slams.

 

[ncurd]

Wales were the first to do it in 2005 and for a while that was held up as being particularly impossible. Ireland (2009), England (2016) and Wales (2019) have done it more recently, all with Italy as an effective bye.

Interesting apart from Ireland nobody really did it when Italy were a W but one you had to work at and just didn't obliterate them at mere sight. Now its nothing more than training run.

 

[Welsh Exile]

No changes for France.

 

[ncurd]

Traditions don't make sense half the time, couldn't telly you why but it's always been that way. BOD should have got the team out to fight them off really, a real inexperienced reaction, doubt Wood would have put up with it.

Johnson has said if Kaplan had got involved he would of moved, hell I'm sure if BOD had gone up to talk to him he might have done. Some IRFU suit was never going to manage it.

 

[Welsh Exile]

It was an odd one as historically speaking England have always been very respectful towards other cultures and their practices in general.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

France:
Brice Dulin; Teddy Thomas, Virimi Vakatawa, Gael Fickou, Damian Penaud; Matthieu Jalibert, Antoine Dupont; Cyril Baille, Julien Marchand, Mohamed Haouas, Romain Taofifenua, Paul Willemse, Dylan Cretin, Charles Ollivon, Gregory Alldritt.

Replacements:
Camille Chat, Jean-Baptiste Gros, Uini Atonio, Swan Rebbadj, Anthony Jelonch, Baptiste Serin, Romain Ntamack, Arthur Vincent.

 

[MikeTheNative]

Hopefully they don't bother to put Ntamack on this week as well.

 

[FrenchFan]

Hopefully we won't need to.

 

[BiggusLaddus]

It was an odd one as historically speaking England have always been very respectful towards other cultures and their practices in general.

Especially when we go to visit.

 

[MattGaff]

I'm pretty sure I saw a documentary once where MJ said he deliberately did that line up thing to get in their heads and it worked. See when England do that ****, the fans say they are World class, played a blinder etc. Their media and number of voices are louder so that's what sticks.
Every other nation sees that as disrespectful, arrogant, monstrous etc.

And vice versa when you swap nations.

And round the merry-go-round we continue. Its what makes this tournament great. We are only better than any other team as per the last game. Nobody is ever on top forever. Would love to see an Italy GS in my lifetime though!

 

[ncurd]

I'm pretty sure I saw a documentary once where MJ said he deliberately did that line up thing to get in their heads and it worked.

I dunno what you saw but this is only thing I know of where MJ spoke about it. Says essentially you always line up on the side where you wamrup and wasn't aware of any protocol. Which could be entirely true and just everytime he played at Landowne before they warmed up on the 'correct' side. When asked to moved he said no and it pretty much escalted from there.

Johnson: What really happened with President McAleese

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www.irishexaminer.com

 

[Dai Yorkshire]

Let's see how many tries the ref gifts them and/or how many players France have sent off.

Takes a very long time to perfect that skill.

 

[MattGaff]

I dunno what you saw but this is only thing I know of where MJ spoke about it. Says essentially you always line up on the side where you wamrup and wasn't aware of any protocol. Which could be entirely true and just everytime he played at Landowne before they warmed up on the 'correct' side. When asked to moved he said no and it pretty much escalted from there.

Johnson: What really happened with President McAleese

IT’s become a YouTube classic, with over 350,000 hits, but England’s Martin Johnson has never explained his version of the notorious red carpet ‘snub’ to President, Mary McAleese at Lansdowne Road eight years ago.

www.irishexaminer.com

Fair enough. I have no idea what it was either. Maybe I was drunk and mixed up 2 events who knows.

 

[Dai Yorkshire]

France have some pretty big units in the pack so I understand why Beard is in, but we'll miss hill in the lineout me thinks, Botham instead of Wainright not sure, Navidi can play 7, unless hes going to swap him (Botham for Tipric) good move if he does.
How do you beat France? Frustrate them if you can, stop kicking long would help too, stop them having the ball, we should also welcome their 9 as he could be the difference. Will be tough I think, but France are not unbeatable, just crowd them don't give them time, our defence must be good too need to form our line far quicker.