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2014 Junior World Championship - June 2 to 20

Well from what I saw was that we smashed them at scrum time, and our loosies ran them ragged.

Handre Pollard had a good day with the boot, kicking 5 out of 6, and our backline was potent.

So all in all it looks like we got the start we needed.

I saw some highlights and it looks like the combination of Pollard's long passing game and speed out wide seems to have payed off again. Forwards look like they can make inroads route 1 if that fails and if Pollard can keep up a good kicking %, yeah, no reason not to go all the way.
 
I saw some highlights and it looks like the combination of Pollard's long passing game and speed out wide seems to have payed off again. Forwards look like they can make inroads route 1 if that fails and if Pollard can keep up a good kicking %, yeah, no reason not to go all the way.

let's wait and see what happens on Friday against NZ...
 
let's wait and see what happens on Friday against NZ...

True but I watched NZ against Samoa and that was not the best NZ team that has played in these tournament BUT it is in NZ which counts for a helluva lot, particularly at this level...
so, okay I'll wait.
 
We won, but it was far from convincing. This is probably the best Samoan side we have seen at this tournament, but there were certainly some worrying signs for the NZ side. Our score was inflated somewhat by 3 late tries, but apart from that we were completely outplayed in the 2nd half. Samoa dominated up front, had the edge at the breakdown, and we struggled to breach there backline defense. I can't see us matching South Africa up front on Friday - we are going to have to rely very heavily on our backs.

I thought Harris was the pick of our forwards, though he perhaps needs to add a bit of bulk. Boshier showed some good pace at 7, but needs to get far stronger at the breakdown - he often over the ball, but was very easy to move. Peni looks great with room to move, but seems to take a while to get his big frame going.

Drummond looked good at halfback, and I thought both midfielders played well too, though I feel we would be better starting Faiane at 12. Tavae-Aso was very good on the wing, and Li looked good once he came on. McKenzie was the pick of the NZ players for me. He has a great passing game, kicks well, is very elusive, and seems to have so much time with the ball. He would do a good job at 10 too, but he brings the 2nd playmaking option from the fullback position. He may need to bulk up a bit, but he looks to have a big future....
 
We won, but it was far from convincing. This is probably the best Samoan side we have seen at this tournament, but there were certainly some worrying signs for the NZ side. Our score was inflated somewhat by 3 late tries, but apart from that we were completely outplayed in the 2nd half. Samoa dominated up front, had the edge at the breakdown, and we struggled to breach there backline defense. I can't see us matching South Africa up front on Friday - we are going to have to rely very heavily on our backs.

I thought Harris was the pick of our forwards, though he perhaps needs to add a bit of bulk. Boshier showed some good pace at 7, but needs to get far stronger at the breakdown - he often over the ball, but was very easy to move. Peni looks great with room to move, but seems to take a while to get his big frame going.

Drummond looked good at halfback, and I thought both midfielders played well too, though I feel we would be better starting Faiane at 12. Tavae-Aso was very good on the wing, and Li looked good once he came on. McKenzie was the pick of the NZ players for me. He has a great passing game, kicks well, is very elusive, and seems to have so much time with the ball. He would do a good job at 10 too, but he brings the 2nd playmaking option from the fullback position. He may need to bulk up a bit, but he looks to have a big future....

I was very impressed with the lock, James Tucker. He seemed to get around the field well and also showed off a few silky skills now and again.

Like you said, McKenzie was pretty good, but I think he needs to run forwards a bit more and not sideways so much :p
 
I was very impressed with the lock, James Tucker. He seemed to get around the field well and also showed off a few silky skills now and again.

Like you said, McKenzie was pretty good, but I think he needs to run forwards a bit more and not sideways so much :p

Yeah I thought Tucker looked pretty handy - he stole a lineout or two too if I remember correctly.

I agree McKenzie was running a bit sideways at times, though I think that was because of the Samoan defense. They were pushing up very fast, but weren't necessarily coming up in a flat line. I could see why McKenzie was running sideways (as there was gaps wider out) - he would have been more effective if he had some players running straight off his shoulder (Tevita Li's try was a good example).
 
We won, but it was far from convincing. This is probably the best Samoan side we have seen at this tournament, but there were certainly some worrying signs for the NZ side. Our score was inflated somewhat by 3 late tries, but apart from that we were completely outplayed in the 2nd half. Samoa dominated up front, had the edge at the breakdown, and we struggled to breach there backline defense. I can't see us matching South Africa up front on Friday - we are going to have to rely very heavily on our backs.

I thought Harris was the pick of our forwards, though he perhaps needs to add a bit of bulk. Boshier showed some good pace at 7, but needs to get far stronger at the breakdown - he often over the ball, but was very easy to move. Peni looks great with room to move, but seems to take a while to get his big frame going.

Drummond looked good at halfback, and I thought both midfielders played well too, though I feel we would be better starting Faiane at 12. Tavae-Aso was very good on the wing, and Li looked good once he came on. McKenzie was the pick of the NZ players for me. He has a great passing game, kicks well, is very elusive, and seems to have so much time with the ball. He would do a good job at 10 too, but he brings the 2nd playmaking option from the fullback position. He may need to bulk up a bit, but he looks to have a big future....

I think you're more optimistic than me!

As you point out our forwards were beaten at the breakdown. In fact they simply were very underwhelming. No one really seemed to make it past the advantage line all game...

I thought McKenzie was a bit..meh. He made a lot of jinking runs, but I think the reason he seemed to have so much time on the ball, is because he caught it and jogged the ball back, while jinking side to side when close but not really getting anywhere! He did some nice clearances, but he was guilty of kicking it down the center far too many times I thought (although Richard Mo'unga was far more guilty of this). I think it wouldn't hurt if we had a little more bulk at centre, as both Jackson Garden-Bachop and Anton Lienert-Brown are similar type of players, both with some nice touches but neither really seem capable of busting through the line. Agree Tavae-Aso looked dangerous (when not diving to collect balls at his feet) while Li made a good impact with a great try and some nice tackles. Overall I'm certainly less than optimistic after this game.
 
Disappointing match from Ireland. They kept throwing away good opportunities from 5 meters out. The lineout was a joke and when they got a scrum from 5 meters out they lost the ball despite dominating the scrums. I think we'll see a few changes for the Wales match.

How many oppurtunities are we going to waste?

And then play kick tennis for the last minute. Some common sense is lacking in this team as I already said hardworking but just lacking that bit of class. To be expected with all the injuries I suppose

Thats what I thought too. Decision making is poor. For example in the first half Kelleher catches a ball in his 22 and with the French closing on him he rushes a kick to touch. He should have called for the mark. A few min later the French kicked down to him again. It was a very long kick. Kelleher caught it but instead of running forward he called for the mark and to make it worse the angle was bad. There just seems to be a lack of brains in the side.
 
England's replacement TH (Alo) didn't look up to much in the scrum... slightly concerning.

Earle looks much better on the wing than he did at FB.

We will miss Thacker, I fear.
 
TBF he was playing in a different position today - he's much more able to use his (considerable) pace on the wing than he was at FB.

Fair enough though, you did!
 
I think you're more optimistic than me!

As you point out our forwards were beaten at the breakdown. In fact they simply were very underwhelming. No one really seemed to make it past the advantage line all game...

I thought McKenzie was a bit..meh. He made a lot of jinking runs, but I think the reason he seemed to have so much time on the ball, is because he caught it and jogged the ball back, while jinking side to side when close but not really getting anywhere! He did some nice clearances, but he was guilty of kicking it down the center far too many times I thought (although Richard Mo'unga was far more guilty of this). I think it wouldn't hurt if we had a little more bulk at centre, as both Jackson Garden-Bachop and Anton Lienert-Brown are similar type of players, both with some nice touches but neither really seem capable of busting through the line. Agree Tavae-Aso looked dangerous (when not diving to collect balls at his feet) while Li made a good impact with a great try and some nice tackles. Overall I'm certainly less than optimistic after this game.

I don't think you could call me optimistic after that match. However I think it is important to take into account Samoa's performance when assessing this result. Traditionally Samoa have never really excelled at this level, but this looks a very strong Samoan side. It is packed full of players who were stars a NZ Schoolboy level - players like Apa, Laulala, and the entire loose forward trio look to have big futures. The fact Cameron Skelton didn't even start is perhaps an indication of there depth. Not only do they have a good side but they looked very well coached, and were very committed (though were offside most of the match!). I would certainly back this Samoan side to beat Scotland, and though they will struggle to match South Africa they could give them a fright....

As I mentioned before McKenzie was running bit laterally on attack due to the rush defense Samoa was employing - even against that rush defense he seemed to have time. Against a more passive defense he could be devastating. When he was receiving the ball at the back he never seemed to have much support, and his forwards seemed to be slow to retire back to him. Running on the angle gave his support players some time to get back and support him, and allowed him to look for gaps in the Samoan chase line. I'm not sure whether this was a deliberate tactic by Mckenzie, or just the way he plays, but I felt it was probably the best option he had this match....
 
Ha just saw Dafydd Howells try after something like 7 seconds :p would that go into the record books as the fastest international try, or would u20's not count?
Welsh pack still looking fairly formidable against weaker opposition, looked like they did to Fiji what they did to Scotland in the 6N and just steamrollered them at scrum time, giving them at least 3 out of their 6 tries!
Like the look of Steffen Hughes and Ashley Evans (both were part of the run to the final last year too I think?), do want to see Tyler Morgan get a chance soon though, looked very very promising for the Dragons, a lot of potential there!
Not sure Wales will do quite as well as they did last year (especially after the 60 odd point mauling at the hands of England in the 6N), but the pack looks like it can hold its own against most sides!
 
I thought New Zealand U20 had a policy of only picking players from one year, and not picking players a couple of years young, and this was why players like Charles Piutau for instance would play for Tonga first. Looking at their squad has this been changed this year?
 
I thought New Zealand U20 had a policy of only picking players from one year, and not picking players a couple of years young, and this was why players like Charles Piutau for instance would play for Tonga first. Looking at their squad has this been changed this year?

Yep, it looks like that policy has changed. I liked the old policy as it exposed as many of our young players as possible to this level of rugby, but I suppose the NZRFU changed there mind after we didn't win the tournament for a couple of years.....
 
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Not a bad start :)
 
Aussies continues their high school of top class openside flanker.

Rowan Perry:
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1,80 cm and 96 kg - 07/02/1994

An interesting player, is the typical Aussie openside flanker like George Smith or Pocock. Watch out!
 





New Zealand have made a few changes to their starting lineup from their last match, with Sanders coming in for Harris at 6, and Blues players Hickey and Li starting at 10 and 11 respectively. I would have preferred to see Faiane at 12 ahead of Garden-Bachop, but apart from that I think this probably the strongest lineup we have available.

It should be quite an interesting game. South Africa are noticeable bigger up front, and will look to use that to their advantage. I felt our forward pack struggled to match Samoa physically for a large part of the last match, so I'm very worried about what this big South African pack could do to us! I'm not too worried about out lineout - it started to look pretty solid against Samoa after a shaky start, but we will have to perform far better at the breakdown against this South African side. Apart from big Matt Peni we don't appear to have many strong ball runners in the pack (though I haven't seen a lot of Sanders) - our forwards just need to focus on getting quick, clean ball to our backs.

Our backline needs to be a bit more direct this match, as I felt we were far too lateral against Samoa. Both our midfield backs are good passers of the ball, which is important as our main weapons are out wide. South Africa seem to have a size advantage in the backs too (even with their big 12 from the last match missing), but I don't think that will be a major issue for NZ as our backs all look like reliable tacklers (even the smaller ones such as Hickey and McKenzie). With Hickey back starting we do have a very good goal-kicker, which could be vital in deciding the outcome of this match.
 

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