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[2013 EOYT] England

Could've sworn I drove past Kane Douglas on a bicycle earlier...

And now I've seen this:

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Good to finally be in London Town... Had a good little bike ride around with the lads to stay awake.. #WhatJetLag pic.twitter.com/FnHJsmoDih
— Quade Cooper (@QuadeCooper) October 26, 2013

So random.


Just read this article too, I agree with pretty much everything:

http://www.theroar.com.au/2013/10/25/breaking-down-englands-tight-five/
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After seeing the Performances from Foden and Goode at the weekend.
Goode had a absolute shocker while Foden had a great game.
Foden must start.. What is everyone's line up for Australia?
 
Could've sworn I drove past Kane Douglas on a bicycle earlier...

And now I've seen this:

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Good to finally be in London Town... Had a good little bike ride around with the lads to stay awake.. #WhatJetLag pic.twitter.com/FnHJsmoDih
— Quade Cooper (@QuadeCooper) October 26, 2013

So random.


Just read this article too, I agree with pretty much everything:

http://www.theroar.com.au/2013/10/25/breaking-down-englands-tight-five/
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Him, Horwill and Folau are at the NFL at Wembley tonight
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Saxons duo <a href="https://twitter.com/robwebber2">@robwebber2</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/henrythomas105">@henrythomas105</a> will train with England this week ahead of opening QBE International vs Australia <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23EnglandRugby&amp;src=hash">#EnglandRugby</a></p>&mdash; Official RFU (@Official_RFU) <a href="https://twitter.com/Official_RFU/statuses/394554654480420864">October 27, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The front row pair are in camp as injury cover for Dylan Hartley (ankle) and David Wilson (calf) <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23EnglandRugby&amp;src=hash">#EnglandRugby</a></p>&mdash; Official RFU (@Official_RFU) <a href="https://twitter.com/Official_RFU/statuses/394556054962728960">October 27, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Webber and Thomas are in camp with England as injury cover for Hartley and Wilson. Sources from RFU Twitter.

Positive: Webber for and involved

Not so positive: Thomas is potentially our only cover on one side of the front row. Don't know how I feel about that.
 
England squad preparing for Australia:

Forwards (19)
David Attwood (Bath Rugby)
Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)
Alex Corbisiero (Northampton Saints)
Tom Johnson (Exeter Chiefs)
Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints)
Matt Kvesic (Gloucester Rugby)
Joe Launchbury (London Wasps)
Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints)
Joe Marler (Harlequins)
Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby)
Geoff Paling (Leicester Tigers)
Chris Robshaw (Harlequins)
Henry Thomas (Sale Sharks)
Billy Vunipola (Saracens)
Mako Vunipola (Saracens)
Rob Webber (Bath Rugby)
David Wilson (Bath Rugby)
Tom Wood (Northampton Saints)
Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

Backs (17)
Chris Ashton (Saracens)
Mike Brown (Harlequins)
Freddie Burns (Gloucester Rugby)
Luther Burrell (Northampton Saints)
Danny Care (Harlequins)
Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints)
Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby)
Owen Farrell (Saracens)
Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers)
Ben Foden (Northampton Saints)
Alex Goode (Saracens)
Henry Trinder (Gloucester Rugby)
Joel Tomkins (Saracens)
Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby)
Christian Wade (London Wasps)
Marland Yarde (London Irish)
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

www.rfu.com

Yep a bit worrying that Henry Thomas is the only tighthead prop cover if David Wilson doesn't make it. In terms of experience he is very callow; but if he does play we'll soon find out how good he is. I haven't seen too much of him; how has he been doing for Sale Sharks this season?
 
England are really racking up the injuries. I guess I've always wanted new talent to be tried out but this isn't exactly what I meant.
 
how has he been doing for Sale Sharks this season?
Better with the new scrummaging laws, and better with a big lock behind him - still average at best, though.
Put him, with Parling behind him, up against NZ and he'll be screwed.
 
Parling is comparatively weak compared to Andrei Ostrikov/Kiril Kulemin, or on an England level, Dave Attwood.
It's not having a go at him, he's just not that sort of player.
 
....................... with Parling behind him.............. he'll be screwed.

O...n...Lyy having having a laugh!!

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Better with the new scrummaging laws, and better with a big lock behind him - still average at best, though.
Put him, with Parling behind him, up against NZ and he'll be screwed.

Since the tighthead prop generally doesn't have number 5 behind him, I think he'll probably be safe on that score...
 
Really? Why are they numbered 4 and 5 if they line up at 5 and 4 in the scrum?
 
Atwood behind Thomas might be bearable, but any other lock combination fills be with dread. Against a first choice front row and the All Blacks having Thomas on the bench or even starting is basically giving the opposition a large handful of free scrum penalties.

In other news, Dan Bowden wants to be the new Shontayne Hape: http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3556_8992242,00.html
 
I'm struggling to think of any others, to be honest :huh: Well, there's the young guy at Saints whose name completely evades me - one of the Waller's perhaps? Or is it Mercey?
There's Paul Doran-Jones, but he's not at international standard either.

Sinkler got taken apart by Ross Harrison on Saturday, so he's a way off.
 
Agreed. I was wracking my brains to think of anyone else. Turns out we're overly stocked with talent on one side of the scrum but not so rich on the other.
 

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